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Ben Duckett - drunk.


End of the day most of us are football fans (obviously on here but just generally most cricket fans will be to some extent) and we’re used to professional sports stars who take nutrition and sports science seriously, to deliver a pretty high standard of product on the pitch.

I just don’t think people are going to accept a cricket team who think they can get mortal and still turn up the next day like they would have 20/30 years ago. Especially not for occasions like this.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
End of the day most of us are football fans (obviously on here but just generally most cricket fans will be to some extent) and we’re used to professional sports stars who take nutrition and sports science seriously, to deliver a pretty high standard of product on the pitch.

I just don’t think people are going to accept a cricket team who think they can get mortal and still turn up the next day like they would have 20/30 years ago. Especially not for occasions like this.
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I don't think most would be that bothered had things been going well, but given the lack of preparation and poor performances, people will rightly be jumping all over this. You are 2-0 down in your biggest series, you have barely prepared for it, you have had numerous extra days off because of how shit you have been, you decide to play no practise matches in between tests and instead go on the piss for days? It is a staggering lack of self awareness.
 
If they were winning everyone would be saying they deserve a knees up. Whilst it is unprofessional let them crack on and enjoy themselves if they wanna get steaming
 
HarrogateMackem said:
End of the day most of us are football fans (obviously on here but just generally most cricket fans will be to some extent) and we’re used to professional sports stars who take nutrition and sports science seriously, to deliver a pretty high standard of product on the pitch.

I just don’t think people are going to accept a cricket team who think they can get mortal and still turn up the next day like they would have 20/30 years ago. Especially not for occasions like this.
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Cricket has been left in the proverbial dark ages when it comes to sports science and nutrition like.

You hear commentators talking about the offerings at Lords during the lunch break (for players) etc.

Most endurance sports you wouldn’t dream of drinking for at least a fortnight before an event, and most of them don’t involve you being in 35 degree heat for hours on end and unable to get food & drink whenever you want it.

A few beers on the evening of the final day of a test, followed by 2 days of rest, before getting back into training in sound. Anyone going out and getting smashed like Duckett has isn’t a serious athlete.
 
The Breen Machine said:
I don't think most would be that bothered had things been going well, but given the lack of preparation and poor performances, people will rightly be jumping all over this. You are 2-0 down in your biggest series, you have barely prepared for it, you have had numerous extra days off because of how shit you have been, you decide to play no practise matches in between tests and instead go on the piss for days? It is a staggering lack of self awareness.
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Yeah but that's the thing. You can't be carrying on like this, exactly because as soon as something/ anything goes wrong people will turn.

It's the same in the PL/ football. If our lot were out every night in Newcastle nobody would care until we started losing games. The professionalism of football, with sports science, nutrition etc. shows that you're doing everything in your power to be as good as you can, and if you're that level of dedicated there's very little people can say really.
 
HawaySkin said:
If they were winning everyone would be saying they deserve a knees up. Whilst it is unprofessional let them crack on and enjoy themselves if they wanna get steaming
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To turn that on its head, and I disagree with you completely, maybe they would be winning if they didn't have the attitude displayed here. Not just this but the whole culture around them.

Yes they deserve some time off of course, but sensibly.
 
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DonaldDownTheWing said:
Cricket has been left in the proverbial dark ages when it comes to sports science and nutrition like.

You hear commentators talking about the offerings at Lords during the lunch break (for players) etc.

Most endurance sports you wouldn’t dream of drinking for at least a fortnight before an event, and most of them don’t involve you being in 35 degree heat for hours on end and unable to get food & drink whenever you want it.

A few beers on the evening of the final day of a test, followed by 2 days of rest, before getting back into training in sound. Anyone going out and getting smashed like Duckett has isn’t a serious athlete.
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I think my point is that the paying public, social media etc. will demand they change that attitude. It might take some time, but it's coming. There's no way this next generation is allowed to carry on like this when there's so much money on the line.

You can't have your audience watch the best athletes in the world all winter in the football, rugby etc., then expect to pay hundreds of pounds to watch a load of hungover blokes in the cricket.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
I think my point is that the paying public, social media etc. will demand they change that attitude. It might take some time, but it's coming. There's no way this next generation is allowed to carry on like this when there's so much money on the line.

You can't have your audience watch the best athletes in the world all winter in the football, rugby etc., then expect to pay hundreds of pounds to watch a load of hungover blokes in the cricket.
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I had a conversation with Steve Davison once in Quinn’s (2023ish), who said that every player coming through now will have joined academies after the shift in footballing attitude towards alcohol, sports science and nutrition. It means they’ve been brought up in good habits and good environments.

If you’re Chris Rigg for example, he’ll have joined the academy around 2012, which is after the generation of pissheads had largely moved on.

Clearly that’s not happened in cricket yet.
 
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