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Any changes for the 4th Test

Parkside said:
You require selectors to possess experience and expertise and that appears to be sadly lacking in the current set up. Regardless of that,however,replacements have to be given the opportunity. Brook is consistently batting irresponsibly, the end product isn't matching the innate ability - you're not much of an expert if you believe that should be tolerated and accepted. And that coming from one who labelled those who questioned bazball as negative and whingers 😀 .Your history doesn't suggest that you're the shrewdest of judges.
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There is a stark difference between it been accepted and tolerated, which agreeably it shouldn’t and actually dropping him.
Safc98 said:
I can’t sit here and name batters that aren’t here that are definitely better than who have been selected. I think it’s a typical sports fan thing to do to assume that someone else who isn’t in the team must be better and would do better. But if they were better, they’d be here.

They’ve done the right thing identifying 7 batters they think are best equipped for Australia. The issue is that for whatever reason, they haven’t performed.
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Absolutely it’s the same with England football teams, players suddenly become better players when they out of the side.

The whole set up preparation etc etc 100% needs looking at as it has clearly gone wrong.

But simply dropping several batsman for several others who were deemed and are probably not as good as the ones currently in the side, will not solve the deeper problems.

Like been said that’s what happened in the 80s and it didn’t solve it then and won’t now.
 
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Parkside said:
Dropping him would be a last resort obviously. A temporary exclusion may well be the only choice. No one has a divine right to selection which you appeared to be championing.
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I think where you have made a very good point is that no one seems to have questioned his approach and that should be the criticism.

Someone needs to take him aside and have strong words and then if terrible shots still happen then drop him.

To drop him now would be just plain silly imo
 
Voice of fair play said:
I think where you have made a very good point is that no one seems to have questioned his approach and that should be the criticism.

Someone needs to take him aside and have strong words and then if terrible shots still happen then drop him.

To drop him now would be just plain silly imo
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Be very unfair on a replacement in current circumstances. He was a comparative novice at the beginning of bazball and developed bad habits as a consequence. Giving him the extra responsibility of leaderships created extra,unnecessary pressure - yet another senseless,arrogant decision.
 
Personally I would drop Pope move Root up to 3.

Give James Rew a go at 6 to give him half a chance.

Rather than put somebody in at 3 and set them up to fail.

I get when a team is underperforming you look to make changes, but you have to look at the quality of replacements.

It’s not about punishing people for having a bad series because you angry with them.

It’s about picking the best side for the next match
Parkside said:
Be very unfair on a replacement in current circumstances. He was a comparative novice at the beginning of bazball and developed bad habits as a consequence. Giving him the extra responsibility of leaderships created extra,unnecessary pressure - yet another senseless,arrogant decision.
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Yeah no issue when any of that.

But he should still be in the side absolutely should be of all the options we have available
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Personally I would drop Pope move Root up to 3.

Give James Rew a go at 6 to give him half a chance.

Rather than put somebody in at 3 and set them up to fail.

I get when a team is underperforming you look to make changes, but you have to look at the quality of replacements.

It’s not about punishing people for having a bad series because you angry with them.

It’s about picking the best side for the next match

Yeah no issue when any of that.

But he should still be in the side absolutely should be of all the options we have available
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It's Hobson's voice for the next match unfortunately with no replacements at hand. If they persistently don't adhere to advice they merit anger and dropping. Hopefully Brook isn't in that category yet.
Hopefully have a heart to heart with his old mentor at his alma mater,Martin Speight.
 
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chopsfc007 said:
So not a new batting lineup now onto brook he's going to become the 7th fastest in test history to 3000 test runs he might be brainless at times but you don't go dropping players with his numbers I'd like to know who you would bring in you might get someone coming in who might get out to attacking or stupid shots less but they wouldn't produce the numbers he does.
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There's nothing wrong with Brook that a proper coach/captain can't fix. He has all the talent in the world, he just needs to learn some humility and stop thinking he's bigger than the game.
 
VenisonsMullet said:
There's nothing wrong with Brook that a proper coach/captain can't fix. He has all the talent in the world, he just needs to learn some humility and stop thinking he's bigger than the game.
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He needs a parent not a captain.

He comes across as such an entitled ******* dick.

One of the most telling indictments of this set up is that he is annointed as leader in waiting.

He needs to grow up.
 
Waverley said:
He needs a parent not a captain.

He comes across as such an entitled ******* dick.

One of the most telling indictments of this set up is that he is anointed as leader in waiting.

He needs to grow up.
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Agree on all points. I wouldn't be rushing to make him captain. We need a sensible coach to work with Stokes until 2027 Ashes. Then, if Brook has calmed down and is showing the game the correct amount of respect THEN he can be considered for the captaincy.
Lyon and Cummins to miss the rest of the series apparently.
 
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Needs changes even to just ruffle a few feathers.

Whilst I wouldnt drop Brooke (which was floated around reading this thread) he can count himself lucky that the other showers of shite have masked his idiocy this series.
 
Inside Forward said:
I’d bring some of the Lions lads in to see what they can do as there is little point persisting with the current crop of failures.

I’d definitely see what Haines can do opening the batting.
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Hi lions player..yh yh I know your back home but want to fly out again on monday arrive Tuesday have a bit of a kip wednesday and play Thursday..we will tell the press you trained on the plane ok.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Personally I would drop Pope move Root up to 3.

Give James Rew a go at 6 to give him half a chance.

Rather than put somebody in at 3 and set them up to fail.

I get when a team is underperforming you look to make changes, but you have to look at the quality of replacements.

It’s not about punishing people for having a bad series because you angry with them.

It’s about picking the best side for the next match

Yeah no issue when any of that.

But he should still be in the side absolutely should be of all the options we have available
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Stokes 3, Root stays in his preferred role, Rew at 7.
 
chopsfc007 said:
Enjoy your night
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I have enjoyed my night very good night at the ice hockey and darts have been alright.

However I am still waiting for you to provide your evidence on what you have accused me of. Been waiting about 7-8 hours up to now and nothing yet.... why is that? We're all eager to see you come up with your evidence otherwise we'll all just assume you're a liar talking out of your bot. Feel free to retract what you said though.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
I have enjoyed my night very good night at the ice hockey and darts have been alright.

However I am still waiting for you to provide your evidence on what you have accused me of. Been waiting about 7-8 hours up to now and nothing yet.... why is that? We're all eager to see you come up with your evidence otherwise we'll all just assume you're a liar talking out of your bot. Feel free to retract what you said though.
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I havent accused you of anything or lied about anything and you making silly posts for a reaction is pointless, I've got far more important things on at the moment so just let it go.
 
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