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New Birmingham Stadium - 60k+

"Nonce"? ;)

I think I've said on here before, this can go one of two ways for me.

1) Blues do the usual, promise much but crash and burn.... Hilarious!

or

2) It all works out perfectly and they overtake the Vile as the top club in the shitehole that is Brum..... Hilarious!

One things for sure, we play them this coming midweek, guaranteed win for them, they have the hex over us, even Scott feckin Hogan scored a hat-trick against us last time. :evil:
Let’s have a bit of positivity for once man. You can’t go through yer entire Baggie supporting life being negative all the time. Let some sunshine in before the shite weather really kicks in.

Edit: just checked and you’re playing Coventry this weekend man! FFS you’re getting depressed about stuff that’s not happening for weeks yet man! Forget all about them useless Baggies and come n support us. We’re gonna be “the team of the second quarter of the 21st century”. Skinner and Childs are onboard already, best hurry up or you’ll be watching them baggies on your own soon.
 
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According to these stats they've sold out at home 3 times since the turn of the century!! Not really screaming out that they need double the capacity.

 
According to these stats they've sold out at home 3 times since the turn of the century!! Not really screaming out that they need double the capacity.

Yet you have people on here debating if we should add a few thousand extra seats 🙈🤣 if Birmingham fans were like some on here they’d not want the ground extended till they were five times champions of Europe 🤣🤣
Yes but who gives a fuck about a Boro fan talking about Birmingham attendances on a Sunderland forum!!!
It’s like some parmo stained inception 🤣
Hope it happens so there’s a new ground to visit.

It will be MK Dons style far too big like.
As much as I think this has disaster written all over it and their new owners are horrible yanks that want to pull the ladder up behind them once they get up, it is however nice to see owners with a bit of ambition however misplaced this maybe and maybe jumping before they can leap. I guess if nowt else they should do well out of gigs and stuff and take them away from villa park.
That's true, but even if you half it it's still way more than double the population of Sunderland. And a big chunk of Sunderland's population is Washington, Houghton etc which are mixed areas.

Yes we draw support from surrounding areas too, but so do they.

That shows how remarkable our support is really, but all I'm saying is having such a vast population to draw from does give them the potential to attract very big crowds if they get it right.
Have they ever though? I’ve never really checked I know they’ve largely done little in their history but they’ve never seemed that well supported for a city of that size. I guess they could attract new fans but then that has a very very limited draw look at Man City who’ve dominated English football and won everything yet they struggle to sell out and a fair few tickets go to day trippers.
 
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It also has kind of has wolves and West Brom.
Neither are part of Birmingham mate. The conurbation of the West Midlands I believe is over 3 million. The surrounding areas of Birmingham, such as Bromsgrove and Redditch, to name two, are massive blues and villa areas. Birmingham as a club has the potential to have a far bigger fan base that a new ground would give them. Living here, I suppose I see it from a different view. Mind they could never have the same potential as us.
 
Going off the OP it sounded like a League 1 club just was going to build a multi-billion new ground where as its not really like that at all -

"Wagner in June his vision was to create "an entertainment venue unlike many others in the world".

The plans include a 62,000-seat stadium, more than double the capacity of the current Blues ground. Wagner said it would also include a 15,000 to 20,000-seat arena and a show pitch.

"The goal will be to host a whole range of international events not solely in football but [including] American football and rugby," he said.

Birmingham City FC has said the multi-use stadium will include a retractable pitch to allow for concerts and other non-sporting events to take place.

Blues will build a training complex for their professional senior teams and academies, and the site is set to also include community pitches, retail and education.
"There will be provision for housing and hotels, recreational facilities and plenty of green space," the club said.

Wagner told the BBC it was a "unique opportunity".

"If you were to look across western Europe, you would be hard-pressed to find another city with that much land available within walking distance of the city centre, where a project of this magnitude can be created and done so in an economically viable way," he said.
Alongside these plans, Wagner and his team have strong ambitions for the Blues, who were promoted from League One last season 111-point haul."

Basically the football side of it is like 20-30% of the entire project?
 
Could they not build the stadium for 60k but not use what would be the premier concourse for us? Don’t put the seats or finish the concourse but have the bones done. The cost of making a stadium has gone mental since SoL was done so if you done the expensive part now as long as you get the attendance in say 10/15 years it’ll be worth it. Yes it won’t look great but if it was designed correctly you could hide the empty parts and make it look like a 40k seater with 20k possible seats if/when required.
 
Neither are part of Birmingham mate. The conurbation of the West Midlands I believe is over 3 million. The surrounding areas of Birmingham, such as Bromsgrove and Redditch, to name two, are massive blues and villa areas. Birmingham as a club has the potential to have a far bigger fan base that a new ground would give them. Living here, I suppose I see it from a different view. Mind they could never have the same potential as us.

Villa also has most of South Staffs to call on. Tamworth, Lichfield, heading up to Cannock and Stafford, though you do get Wolves and Baggies as you head west.
Was just saying the same thing to a lad at work. I get the wider rationale for a large city stadium in Birmingham for other events, but Birmingham City have never needed, or are liklely to ever need, 62,000 seats.

Even Villa would struggle to fill that, and their average gates have historically been about 50% higher than Blues.
 
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One higher than their capacity would do it :lol:

Tip them right over the edge.

Imagine them wanting to leave St James for a 70,000 seat ground, that remains half built when PIF pull out and get bored of football, deciding to invest in table tennis or something instead
 
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