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Ex-Academy thread


halfpast3 said:
Isn’t that a Sunday league side? If he’s home from America I’m surprised he hasn’t signed for someone on a Saturday. Just seen Wearside league. Christ what’s he doing down there
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just been playing college football in the US
 
Raich Carter said:
That’s a mental fall, he looked good for us in league 1 ffs
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Makes you appreciate how Honeyman has stayed in and around the same divisions for nearly a decade. Its sink or swim in lower leagues, a new batch of academy players coming through every season who haven't be through the mill as much, big clubs looking to dump loan players. Its like snakes and ladders, a bad injury, not looking after yourself or a wrong move and you drop down. Look at Embo ffs. Players like Honeyman & Waghorn managed to stay relevant for their primes is an achievement in itself
 
DieselBert said:
Makes you appreciate how Honeyman has stayed in and around the same divisions for nearly a decade. Its sink or swim in lower leagues, a new batch of academy players coming through every season who haven't be through the mill as much, big clubs looking to dump loan players. Its like snakes and ladders, a bad injury, not looking after yourself or a wrong move and you drop down. Look at Embo ffs. Players like Honeyman & Waghorn managed to stay relevant for their primes is an achievement in itself
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Such small margins. Maybe the key is avoiding injuries. Both Robson and Embleton have had more than their fair share of injuries which have maybe taken a toll on their continued development.
 
joop said:
Such small margins. Maybe the key is avoiding injuries. Both Robson and Embleton have had more than their fair share of injuries which have maybe taken a toll on their continued development.
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It pretty much stops your development dead in its tracks and your entire career becomes about rehabilitation. Its a tough, unforgiving career. Joe Pigott finished up 3rd top scorer in league 1 behind Charlie Wyke in 2021 with 20 goals, a couple of bad moves and possibly injuries and hes at Folkestone Invicta. Hes only 31, if you're not going forward you're going backwards. Brutal really
 
DieselBert said:
Makes you appreciate how Honeyman has stayed in and around the same divisions for nearly a decade. Its sink or swim in lower leagues, a new batch of academy players coming through every season who haven't be through the mill as much, big clubs looking to dump loan players. Its like snakes and ladders, a bad injury, not looking after yourself or a wrong move and you drop down. Look at Embo ffs. Players like Honeyman & Waghorn managed to stay relevant for their primes is an achievement in itself
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Joining Ballers League Waghorn iirc. Canny money for a bit of a kick around.
 
DieselBert said:
Makes you appreciate how Honeyman has stayed in and around the same divisions for nearly a decade. Its sink or swim in lower leagues, a new batch of academy players coming through every season who haven't be through the mill as much, big clubs looking to dump loan players. Its like snakes and ladders, a bad injury, not looking after yourself or a wrong move and you drop down. Look at Embo ffs. Players like Honeyman & Waghorn managed to stay relevant for their primes is an achievement in itself
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Can often come down to mentality and application aswell. I’m guessing, by his footballing style, that Honeyman has a pretty good hard-working mentality which can often make up for any deficiencies in ability. Robson and Embleton are the complete opposite!
 
Sallycinamon said:
Can often come down to mentality and application aswell. I’m guessing, by his footballing style, that Honeyman has a pretty good hard-working mentality which can often make up for any deficiencies in ability. Robson and Embleton are the complete opposite!
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Honeyman has improved year on year. He always looked better against us than vs us. I remember seeing Neil, Patto & Diamond doing PT sessions around 3 years ago and the improvements were obvious. Its small margins, who knows whether the likes of Robson had that in him.
With North Eastern lads you can never rule out booze either. Its no coincidence that the best North Eastern player in the last 15 years is teetotal whereas NE players of a similar age (Madine, Graham, Johnson, Carroll) have had their careers impacted by drinking
 
DieselBert said:
Makes you appreciate how Honeyman has stayed in and around the same divisions for nearly a decade. Its sink or swim in lower leagues, a new batch of academy players coming through every season who haven't be through the mill as much, big clubs looking to dump loan players. Its like snakes and ladders, a bad injury, not looking after yourself or a wrong move and you drop down. Look at Embo ffs. Players like Honeyman & Waghorn managed to stay relevant for their primes is an achievement in itself
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Was listening to an interview with Grant McCann after Donny's thumping yesterday and he said exactly this.

" I've said to the players in the changing room that if you're not good enough for Doncaster then you end up dropping down the leagues. You drop down to League Two, or the National League. Is that where you really want to be?"

On the injury point I completely agree. It's why I could see why Tommy wanted the move. Offered a guaranteed (irrespective of fitness or form) £4M when he had fewer England age group caps than Embo had at the same age - Embo who was struggling for a start at Carlisle at the time.
 
David M said:
How's Embo doing at Carlisle this season?
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He’s not! Just a continuation of last season really, couple of games, does nothing, injured, out for a couple of months, struggles to get back in, plays another couple, rinse and repeat. Same with Jordan Jones. 3.5 year deal and 3 year deals respectively, both on around £5-6k a week - both have to be amongst the club’s worst ever signings.
 
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