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Keel Crossing [opened 18.10.25] - compendium thread

The council have consistently refused to be specific about the timeline.

If the contract is vague then their lawyers need to be replaced.

I worry about the rigour of their procurement and legal processes.
If the supplier did suddenly went bust then maybe not the council's fault?
 

If the supplier did suddenly went bust then maybe not the council's fault?
Has the main contractor failed? I didn’t know that.

Is that why it looks like there’s been no progress for weeks?

As to ‘fault’, it would depend. DD on any major contractor is an essential element of any competent procurement process.
 
Has the main contractor failed? I didn’t know that.

Is that why it looks like there’s been no progress for weeks?

As to ‘fault’, it would depend. DD on any major contractor is an essential element of any competent procurement process.

No, I was saying the supplier of the specialised decking went bust not the builder.
 
Don't have that info. I will keep digging.
Probs worth noting though that, depending on the contract structure, a supplier failure is quite likely to be the responsibility of the main contractor (who should, acting prudently, have completed appropriate due diligence and have contingency plans).
As has been mentioned many times in this thread...AUTUMN
Your rude reply missed the point. I meant - what decking are they going to use now them?

Also - IT IS AUTUMN.
 
Probs worth noting though that, depending on the contract structure, a supplier failure is quite likely to be the responsibility of the main contractor (who should, acting prudently, have completed appropriate due diligence and have contingency plans).

Your rude reply missed the point. I meant - what decking are they going to use now them?

Also - IT IS AUTUMN.
It will be the same to match, but from a different supplier.
 
Has the main contractor failed? I didn’t know that.

Is that why it looks like there’s been no progress for weeks?

As to ‘fault’, it would depend. DD on any major contractor is an essential element of any competent procurement process.
You sound very naive to be honest , if a supplier goes bust thats out of anyones control and extention of time would be granted. You cant have contingency for every bit of material on a project if the supplier goes bust to immediately source a replacement.
 
Do you have any idea how much is missing?
No
You sound very naive to be honest , if a supplier goes bust thats out of anyones control and extention of time would be granted. You cant have contingency for every bit of material on a project if the supplier goes bust to immediately source a replacement.
Yes, that's life in a construction reality.
 
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You sound very naive to be honest , if a supplier goes bust thats out of anyones control and extention of time would be granted. You cant have contingency for every bit of material on a project if the supplier goes bust to immediately source a replacement.
I’ve drafted, negotiated and completed dozens of construction contracts so I don’t think ‘naive’ is fair or justified in the context of what I posted.
 
I’ve drafted, negotiated and completed dozens of construction contracts so I don’t think ‘naive’ is fair or justified in the context of what I posted.
It is. Your reality is far from reality of what goes on site and between the management actually doing the work.
 
It is. Your reality is far from reality of what goes on site and between the management actually doing the work.
I’m not looking for an argument - it’s Saturday and a matchday after all - but I find it staggering that you consider yourself empowered with knowledge of what my reality actually is.

In any event, none of this answers why the bridge was not completed months earlier or why there is still no public specific completion date.

Based on (I’ll agree, nothing more than) the observable progress from outside the site, but also my experience, the bridge project seems to have taken far, far longer than it could have done and (coupled with my professional experience over two decades of public sector, local authority procurement) I think it quite likely that the process could have been improved and streamlined. Hopefully the project review team will consider this and identify improvements for the future.

Have a good day. 👍
 
I’m not looking for an argument - it’s Saturday and a matchday after all - but I find it staggering that you consider yourself empowered with knowledge of what my reality actually is.

In any event, none of this answers why the bridge was not completed months earlier or why there is still no public specific completion date.

Based on (I’ll agree, nothing more than) the observable progress from outside the site, but also my experience, the bridge project seems to have taken far, far longer than it could have done and (coupled with my professional experience over two decades of public sector, local authority procurement) I think it quite likely that the process could have been improved and streamlined. Hopefully the project review team will consider this and identify improvements for the future.

Have a good day. 👍
Yeh youve already been told its reality of construction and this isnt a simple project. You are procurement for public sector its not really going to give you much insight into major projects tbh
 
As we all know. volkerstevin are the main contractor, with massive international experience, and are highly regarded. And still issues can crop up at the last minute. Thats life.


 
The council have consistently refused to be specific about the timeline.

If the contract is vague then their lawyers need to be replaced.

I worry about the rigour of their procurement and legal processes.

Youre a lawyer Phil, would you work for local government wages?

People complain about the quality of public sector professionals, but largely the same people are up in arms if they are offered wages that compete with the private sector.

Anyway, that's for a different thread.
 
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