Surely using their brains though even with limited trains sending a two carriage at absolute peak time is bad planning. Everyone knows the few trains on a Saturday game from around 11am to 2ish are gonna be rammed. I use this service every match day and use it two or three times a week average on non match day and see plenty of four carriage trains in service on this line. It’s mental they obviously have the stock to have four carriages on this line as I see them through the week. Sending a two carriage for the first train after the game or the main peak train before is boarding on incompetent. They clearly don’t give a fuck as many have complained an nothing has changed this despite clearly having four carriages trains on this line during the week.
With respect mate, it’s down to awful planning by northern that they don’t have the 4 carriage service available at peak times. It’s available on the same line during awfully quiet times. We have had this problem for years and years. There’s no way in that time they haven’t had the resources or chance to fix the problem they’re just not interested. It costs them as a company hundreds if not thousands of pounds every time it happens because nobody gets a ticket checked, we have people on this thread who can’t even remember the last time they paid for a ticket.
Since I’ve been using this line for around two years now since moving down here the amount of money they must have lost out on would’ve paid for a train
it’s been happening forever so god knows how much in total they’ve missed out on. I was still paying just out of principle at the start as I don’t like bumping fares but the service they provide is farcical. I missed the Brentford game because the train before had been cancelled meaning about two people could get on at horden. I’ve started changing my match day now around getting an earlier train than I would normally just so I don’t risk not getting on.
We definitely do have a huge issue with the fact we're in the North and the government simply don't care about the public transport in the area. That being said, Northern really don't help themselves one bit. The Horden station even being built is laughable because you can't physically get on a train from there on it's busiest days, the train is literally full before it gets there.Since I’ve been using this line for around two years now since moving down here the amount of money they must have lost out on would’ve paid for a train
They surely have enough feedback and data by now from the public and from drivers and workers who must absolutely dread having those shifts. They get stick even though it’s got nowt to do with them. I wouldn’t mind but the bus service from horden to Sunderland is also shite taking an age and also can’t be relied upon. They’ve stopped the service that went from horden to Sunderland too so you need to get a bus to Peterlee to catch the x6 (but that doesn’t run in Sundays) or the 61 that’s takes around 80mins to get to town or one of the Arriva buses that also goes around the world.
As a townie born and bread i used to scoff at people from the outskirts and Durham villages that it’s easier to get to Newcastle than Sunderland but that shockingly is the case. I can get to Newcastle on one of the express services the same time if not quicker than getting to Sunderland especially on a Sunday when the x6 doesn’t run. No wonder lots drive I can’t imagine relying on public transport around here if your job is a distance away.
How many is "all"? Genuine question.
And there lies the problem 90% of the time nobody uses them.
Not the case I use the line a fair bit, used it at all different time too the early morning one is always well subscribed as people go to work in Newcastle and Sunderland. Just like any line it will have its slow times but match day isn’t it when its dangerously over subscribed.
It has to be down to a lack of, or absence of, regulation, otherwise their business model would have collapsed by now.Since I’ve been using this line for around two years now since moving down here the amount of money they must have lost out on would’ve paid for a train
They surely have enough feedback and data by now from the public and from drivers and workers who must absolutely dread having those shifts. They get stick even though it’s got nowt to do with them. I wouldn’t mind but the bus service from horden to Sunderland is also shite taking an age and also can’t be relied upon. They’ve stopped the service that went from horden to Sunderland too so you need to get a bus to Peterlee to catch the x6 (but that doesn’t run in Sundays) or the 61 that’s takes around 80mins to get to town or one of the Arriva buses that also goes around the world.
As a townie born and bread i used to scoff at people from the outskirts and Durham villages that it’s easier to get to Newcastle than Sunderland but that shockingly is the case. I can get to Newcastle on one of the express services the same time if not quicker than getting to Sunderland especially on a Sunday when the x6 doesn’t run. No wonder lots drive I can’t imagine relying on public transport around here if your job is a distance away.
They were ducking as they passed you.
This makes it all the more reason they don’t plan a bit better by making sure it’s only two carriages at quieter times and four at peak times, they could be raking it in on matchdays. Instead they miss out. Would be like a pub in the town opening during the week then not opening on a matchday.
Are you actually suggesting we get “new” train carriages. We get second or third hand carriages passed on from the south when they are done with them
How much can it cost to produce them? We aren’t talking a major innovation in 2025. I’ve been on trains down south, 7 carriages, 2 would have been sufficient. No joined up thinking in this country over anything - trains, government, NHS - country is an absolute mess.
Is there a link with info about the December upgrades mate?
The carriages would pay for themselves in time as more people would be able to actually use them and the conductors would be able to get round and check tickets.
