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Getting bit anxious over defense. Haway Florent

Obviously not the preferred option but I would not be surprised to see last week’s back 5 start v West Ham.

I am sure we will bring in a couple of CBs but just maybe not in time for the West Ham game.
 

cowan86 said:
Florent Ghisolfi Earn your coin. Want one in before the weekends game. Bizarre how we not sorted one out yet.
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Give it a rest you boring knacker.

It’s mental how people still think that signings are completed in order of priority based on a certain position.

Talks and bids for CBs will have been ongoing for weeks. As the club have shown time and time again, it’ll happen out of the blue.

Posting inane shit won’t make it happen any quicker.
 
Geppetto said:
This. If you can't score goals, you can't win games.

Goals have been hard to come by for us in pre season when the pressure's off.
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A strong defence is more important. You don't concede, you don't get beat and could win. A good striker doesn't matter if you can't stop the other team going down the other end and sticking one more in than you do.
APH said:
Absolute worst case scenario we can still line up vs West Ham like this;

Hume Ballard Seelt Reinildo

Seelt being the biggest question mark, but I think he's looked good in pre-season. O'nien back soon and also Alese at some point. If we can get one top CB in before West Ham, I'd feel much more comfortable.
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I'll be closing my eyes every time West Ham attack with that lot trying to stop them :lol:
 
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Historically, a stronger defence is more important than a stronger attack in terms of survival chances.

Teams conceding more than 60 goals a season get relegated 76% of the time, whereas teams scoring 38 goals or less (i.e. averaging a goal per game or less) still manage to stay up 50% of the time.

If you have a poor defence, you typically need to average around 2 goals per game or more to stay up, which is bordering on completely unrealistic for teams at the bottom.
 
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My theory is the club will only spend money on wingers and central midfielders, because they are the positions that have the best value in terms of what you can get them for and what they can sell for.

Strikers are in such short supply that they cost too much to begin with so there isn't much value to be had.

Defenders are less likely to sell for big money so it takes longer to find value.

These owners have a history of reluctance in spending money on a striker. The last few seasons we've missed out on our targets and ended up with young loans. Burstow, Gelhardt, Simms, Danns. I hope this doesn't happen again and we rely on Guiu.
 
The Situation said:
Historically, a stronger defence is more important than a stronger attack in terms of survival chances.

Teams conceding more than 60 goals a season get relegated 76% of the time, whereas teams scoring 38 goals or less (i.e. averaging a goal per game or less) still manage to stay up 50% of the time.

If you have a poor defence, you typically need to average around 2 goals per game or more to stay up, which is bordering on completely unrealistic for teams at the bottom.
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Be interesting to see it plotted on a graph for goals scored, conceded and chances of staying up.
 
Wakoro said:
My theory is the club will only spend money on wingers and central midfielders, because they are the positions that have the best value in terms of what you can get them for and what they can sell for.

Strikers are in such short supply that they cost too much to begin with so there isn't much value to be had.

Defenders are less likely to sell for big money so it takes longer to find value.

These owners have a history of reluctance in spending money on a striker. The last few seasons we've missed out on our targets and ended up with young loans. Burstow, Gelhardt, Simms, Danns. I hope this doesn't happen again and we rely on Guiu.
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What like buying Wilson in January despite him being on loan until the end of the season?

Is it not just a case of the right striker not being available? We could go out and sign anyone to fill a gap in the squad.

However, I’d rather we wait to land the players who will have been scouted for months on are high on our list of targets to improve the squad.
 
Wakoro said:
My theory is the club will only spend money on wingers and central midfielders, because they are the positions that have the best value in terms of what you can get them for and what they can sell for.

Strikers are in such short supply that they cost too much to begin with so there isn't much value to be had.

Defenders are less likely to sell for big money so it takes longer to find value.

These owners have a history of reluctance in spending money on a striker. The last few seasons we've missed out on our targets and ended up with young loans. Burstow, Gelhardt, Simms, Danns. I hope this doesn't happen again and we rely on Guiu.
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Id rather our strikers than Man Utd have. lol We will deliver, just watch.
 
Gloucester said:
Obviously not the preferred option but I would not be surprised to see last week’s back 5 start v West Ham.

I am sure we will bring in a couple of CBs but just maybe not in time for the West Ham game.
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Harrison Jones v Jarrod Bowen will be entertaining.
 
He's too busy making sure his shirt doesn't tuck in his pants and cupping everyone in Sunderland round the ear/neck affectionately... whatever that's all about... assuming it's an alpha thing.......
 
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Signing a top defender or 2 will see us concede less, but we'll still have to score to win/draw games. Even most of the top sides concede in the PL now.

We need quality at both ends of the pitch.
 
The Situation said:
Historically, a stronger defence is more important than a stronger attack in terms of survival chances.

Teams conceding more than 60 goals a season get relegated 76% of the time, whereas teams scoring 38 goals or less (i.e. averaging a goal per game or less) still manage to stay up 50% of the time.

If you have a poor defence, you typically need to average around 2 goals per game or more to stay up, which is bordering on completely unrealistic for teams at the bottom.
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Isn't this a blatantly weighted comparison? Across all teams in the division, the exact same number of goals are conceded as are scored. What is the source of your data? What about 55 goals conceded. For balance, don't you need to be using the number of goals scored / conceded at the same point when you're assessing likelihood of relegation?
 
APH said:
Absolute worst case scenario we can still line up vs West Ham like this;

Hume Ballard Seelt Reinildo

Seelt being the biggest question mark, but I think he's looked good in pre-season. O'nien back soon and also Alese at some point. If we can get one top CB in before West Ham, I'd feel much more comfortable.
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Alese though 😂😂😂
 
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