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I’m looking for the Mitchell and Webb sketch this thread is a parody of but I can’t find it
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It didnt 'collapse'. It suffered from a known engineering principle known as resonant frequency. People walking at the same speed tend to get in line and all those feet hitting the deck at the same time caused the bridge to vibrate.There was a footbridge of similar design that collapsed down London and nobody knows why.
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Dont need a second bridge thread as this is fairly activeThread 'New bridge for first home game'
New bridge for first home game
The linked one is bonkers and an amusing parody.Dont need a second bridge thread as this is fairly active
So the OP isn't a dangerously overweight crackpot and has valid concerns ?It didnt 'collapse'. It suffered from a known engineering principle known as resonant frequency. People walking at the same speed tend to get in line and all those feet hitting the deck at the same time caused the bridge to vibrate.
They fixed it with some strategically placed reinforcments as far as I know.
Similar things have brought down suspension bridges in the past and the variable height of the 'screening' on the sides of the new bridge are probably a way of mitigating that.
Agree - figured that other thread might be worth sharing in here to see what was said.Dont need a second bridge thread as this is fairly active
Deffo a crackpot marra.So the OP isn't a dangerously overweight crackpot and has valid concerns ?
That is actually what us civils contractors think of designersI am pretty sure they know what they are doing mate.
The machinery they have been using to load the bridge up probably puts more of a point load on the structure than a few thousand people spread along the length will on a match day.
But just to be on the safe side, you and your mate should probably avoid it and go the long way round for every match for at least the first ten years just in case. Tell everyone you know the same please. Its just not worth the risk.
PS - My profession is as a design engineer working in the construction industry. Its true what people say down the pub, none of us have any training or a clue what we are doing and most of it is just guess work. We just 'sit at desks all day'.![]()
Its a common thing this mate. If people don't personally understand or relate to a job, especially an office based one, they assume the people in the office know nowt and are basically just 'sitting at a desk'. Its just easier for most people to do this rather try and learn whats actually being done.Is this post genuine or are you suggesting experienced civil engineers and experts won't have thought about load testing?
I know, which is why I posted it.That is actually what us civils contractors think of designers![]()
Is the Wearmouth bridge?Will they make it one directional on match day
There’s bound to be two grans trying to go north just as a match is coming out
On a match day?I think the biggest danger to pedestrians is going to come from e-bikes on our bridge.
I'll accept that this is football forum and I strayed from the OP's matchday structural concerns. I'm just expressing my own concerns about the functional dangers of the mixed use bridge design. It is a relative speed issue and a waving one's i-Phone whilst walking back half-pissed from a Sheepfold restaurant issue. I hope I am wrong on this.On a match day?
I’m sure if we all jump up and down as excitingly as possible, it will collapse into the river.Does anyone know if there is a plan in place to test how it holds up under the weight of full match-day footfall? It almost feels like we are being made the guinea pigs to test its strength. A mate of mine was on a run down the river, he worked on the Megyeri Bridge whilst living out in Budapest and said he had some real worries about the standard of work on our new footbridge. He said the abutments (end supports for transferring loads) didn’t look sufficient for the loads it would need to transfer on a matchday.
That was because some moron thought they would try a “horizontal suspension” bridge, a classic example of why engineers should design bridges and not architects.Remember the millennium bridge on the Thames When larger groups of people started using the bridge
There’s some countries I can think of where the Civil Engineers actively discourage load testing. They only get paid if the bridge is commissioned so testing it just for it to fall down isn’t the best business practice.Is this post genuine or are you suggesting experienced civil engineers and experts won't have thought about load testing?