Dan Neil

[Coeus]

Well Sheff Utd away despite defeat was as good as we've played away from home this season..Dan Neil was a big part of that, to say he didn't play well that game imo is just simply wrong

Ok, that performance was ok, but we had 2 shots on target, Im not sure it was that good. Dan Neil I remember putting one in row Z, I think.

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Whose man is Davies there? Bit of a difference in focus between the pair?

Im not saying he was bad in that game, he was average.

 

[Perryqhill]

It's my perspective Rocky, I wouldn't have said it otherwise. If you or anyone can dispute it in detail, I'd happily see if my perspective will change on the back of it.

But I imagine it'll just be your wrong, or Dan Neil had a phantom couple of months that he was great and should win pots.

He was clearly good and influential from November onwards for at least a couple of months. You're saying he's ha dine here and there is laughable

It's absolutely tialed off like the form of most the squad has. But one here and there during that period is laughable.

 

[Rocky77]

Ok, that performance was ok, but we had 2 shots on target, Im not sure it was that good. Dan Neil I remember putting one in row Z, I think.

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Whose man is Davies there? Bit of a difference in focus between the pair?

Im not saying he was bad in that game, he was average.

He played well in a good performance
I think you're being harsh tbh mate

 

[Tom]

I still can’t make my mind up about him

 

[Perryqhill]

Ok, that performance was ok, but we had 2 shots on target, Im not sure it was that good. Dan Neil I remember putting one in row Z, I think.

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Whose man is Davies there? Bit of a difference in focus between the pair?

Im not saying he was bad in that game, he was average.

So picking a moment here and there is indicative of who did or didn't have a good game?

I'm pretty sure various stats of moments during the entire season an argument could be made for any player of ours being good or bad in the same game.

There's more to it than that though isn't there.

So what ceiling are you talking about ? Premier league player?
I’ve read anyone claim he was going to be international class. As you say his pace will probably limit his potential.
But I can’t see why anyone would doubt that this strong intelligent footballer won’t play in the top league of this or another country.

You seem to be suggesting that what ever he is he won’t deserve it, I mean what’s wrong with being a modern midfielder? .

He was also my MOTM on Saturday

Generally in these cases I'm responding to someone suggesting he's been more than average or predicting great things for him. I mean earlier this season things like "generational talent" were being used.

I think he has the potential to be a half decent Premier League player if everything goes well for him, but it's not definite.

With regards what he does or doesn't deserve I'm saying he'll be given chances earlier than some and maybe for longer because of his physical make up being akin to his superstar brother.

To be anything more than that I'd have expected to have seen it more often for us at this level.

 

[Coeus]

He played well in a good performance
I think you're being harsh tbh mate

Fair enough, I get why you would think that. I just think it was maybe good, decent, whatever and then a mistake that cost us, hence average.

He was clearly good and influential from November onwards for at least a couple of months. You're saying he's ha dine here and there is laughable

It's absolutely tialed off like the form of most the squad has. But one here and there during that period is laughable.

Average in 5 games in November. I wouldn't call that particularly influential. As for December, he was nowhere near Jobe's level.

 

[harryCLSsafc]

Everton are after him.

 

[Coeus]

So picking a moment here and there is indicative of who did or didn't have a good game?

I'm pretty sure various stats of moments during the entire season an argument could be made for any player of ours being good or bad in the same game.

There's more to it than that though isn't there.

Of course there is Perry. But I'd imagine you would agree that mistakes or moments of class that are game-defining have a larger impact on someone's full game rating than a misplaced pass etc...

 

[Rocky77]

Fair enough, I get why you would think that. I just think it was maybe good, decent, whatever and then a mistake that cost us, hence average.



Average in 5 games in November. I wouldn't call that particularly influential. As for December, he was nowhere near Jobe's level.

And beyond harsh to blame him for the goal. Ha'way lad

 

[Perryqhill]

Average in 5 games in November. I wouldn't call that particularly influential. As for December, he was nowhere near Jobe's level.

Swansea away December 14th he was better and more influential probably than Jobe had been at anytime this season.

Portsmouth 5th Jan Neil absolutely ran the show - better than anything we've ever seen from Jobe.

Around that time Neil was our best and most influential player and the links to PL sides started again.

 

[Hongkongphooey]

Everton are after him.

Start the ......

 

[Coeus]

And beyond harsh to blame him for the goal. Ha'way lad

Not all his fault, of course, but let's be serious, whose man was Tom Davies in that picture? If you were only looking at body language, would you be able to guess who would get to a stray ball?

That was a big part of his role for better or worse.

 

[Rocky77]

Not all his fault, of course, but let's be serious, whose man was Tom Davies in that picture? If you were only looking at body language, would you be able to guess who would get to a stray ball?

That was a big part of his role for better or worse.

You've just blamed him for it, it's very very harsh

 

[Coeus]

Swansea away December 14th he was better and more influential probably than Jobe had been at anytime this season.

Portsmouth 5th Jan Neil absolutely ran the show - better than anything we've ever seen from Jobe.

Around that time Neil was our best and most influential player and the links to PL sides started again.

In December, he made one good performance, Swansea, rest were average. Jobe had 5 good games, 1 average.

January, the only good month he has had, Jobe fell on the day ELF arrived, Dan was better that month. Singular.

 

[Coeus]

You've just blamed him for it, it's very very harsh

Not by himself though, he just played probably the largest part in it. Aji and Rigg didnt cover themselves in glory either.

 

[Perryqhill]

Not all his fault, of course, but let's be serious, whose man was Tom Davies in that picture? If you were only looking at body language, would you be able to guess who would get to a stray ball?

Watch the build up to it. Neil is more central with eyes on Hamer. Davies runs into space with Mepham or Ballard ahead, three SAFC players dragged to the ball and if Davies has ran off anyone it's Jobe.

There's maybe a failure to react when Neil becomes closer to Davies but I don't think it's his man.
If I knew how to post the image I would.

 

[Coeus]

Watch the build up to it. Neil is more central with eyes on Hamer. Davies runs into space with Mepham or Ballard ahead, three SAFC players dragged to the ball and if Davies has ran off anyone it's Jobe.

There's maybe a failure to react when Neil becomes closer to Davies but I don't think it's his man.
If I knew how to post the image I would.

I've watched it, I know what you're referring too and what you mean, he becomes Neil's man as the move transpires though, that much is clear from the pic imo there.

 

[Perryqhill]

Watch the build up to it. Neil is more central with eyes on Hamer. Davies runs into space with Mepham or Ballard ahead, three SAFC players dragged to the ball and if Davies has ran off anyone it's Jobe.

There's maybe a failure to react when Neil becomes closer to Davies but I don't think it's his man.
If I knew how to post the image I would.

In fact i don't think he's actually run off Jobe he's just playing off the striker or moved into that area by the looks of it and difficult to pick up.

 

[Johnny Gently]

Not all his fault, of course, but let's be serious, whose man was Tom Davies in that picture? If you were only looking at body language, would you be able to guess who would get to a stray ball?

That was a big part of his role for better or worse.

Neil, like most of his teammates has been poor of late. He had a very good 2 months after Xmas but has always had a bad mistake in him or loses the ball too easily. He's not as good as some on here think and not as bad as his detractors make out. I think he'll have a decent career more Colback than Henderson but good luck to the lad and I hope we see the best of him in the final 3 games.

 

[Coeus]

Neil, like most of his teammates has been poor of late. He had a very good 2 months after Xmas but has always had a bad mistake in him or loses the ball too easily. He's not as good as some on here think and not as bad as his detractors make out. I think he'll have a decent career more Colback than Henderson but good luck to the lad and I hope we see the best of him in the final 3 games.

I'm not trying to shit on the lad, I've always been a big fan, I'm just surprised at some of reaction to the suggestion that he's had a bad season, easily his worst in my opinion.

Also, given how poor a season I think he's had, having to readjust maybe if he can be a prem player like colback was for some time. I've no qualms over him being a championship one as he will be far better next season if he stays in this league I'd imagine.

I don't think he had 2 months of good form either which I've read alot, he had a good January, other than that a couple of sporadic games and the talk of him being pots was mind boggling, to me anyway. I'm glad Trai won as he deserved it but there should have been another 6 or 7 in front of Neil imo there.