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Brighton, Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford

Big Bellyingham said:
They bought the win and not a level playing field like the 6 in a row
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The 6 in a row was never a level playing field mind , that was the mags with the likes of Ashley , Carver and Pardew at the club . They literally couldn't get any lower .
 

They've (Forest) set an example in a way.
Take your chances of a points deduction and spend money and maybe end up like Forest - brink of Champions League and Premier League security.
Follow the PSR rules and get relegated with a whimper like Leicester, Ipswich, Southampton, Sheffield United
The new choice for promoted sides
 
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CaptainRed said:
That's the thing. Despite our good crowds, the cheap tickets that drive these crowds mean that they don't really give us any sort of financial advantage.

For example our last set of accounts show we generated £11.6m in gate receipts and Middlesbrough who average around 25k generated £10.9m.


I was devastated like! No Sunderland fan can't be completely gutted at getting beat off them. Especially at home.

We didn't turn up at all. Just stood back and admired them. At least if we'd had kept hold of Mowbray a bit longer he would have understood what the match meant, made sure the players did as well, and we would have at least competed. Probably would have lost anyway but we'd have made a game of it. Beale as good as threw the game.
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Another thinly veiled dig from Captain skunk. :lol:
 
forever changes said:
Top 6 championship
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😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If I call you a lunatic, take it that it's meant in an affectionate way.

Ya great F***ing Lunatic.

'Mean' position, not 'present'.

44* - 36 - 26 - 49 - 48 - 52 - 49 - 44

In what possible way could you try to shoehorn Sunderland into a mean position of inside the top 26 teams in England.

Average position over the last 8 years - 44th (God, that's embarrassing).

I'd put us about number 36-40. Just because the last 4 seasons have been a bit better than the previous four.
 
Other than Brighton, I wouldn't say these are comfortable mid table teams mind. They're having a good few seasons but so were Leicester and Southampton a few seasons ago and look where they are now. Heck Leicester won the league!
 
martinlumley said:
Comfortably mid table PL. Is this where our benchmark is, with maybe a cup run once in a while? Or could we ever go further under KLD?
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Will all disappear back to the championship in the next 10 years
Bamber said:
Forest have set the example
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Along with these.
The Town Hall Clock said:
So what's ours, now?
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Yeah, just like we were for years, we had a good blip, then a terrible blip. We’ve found our level again.

A lot of teams go through both
 
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Voice of fair play said:
It’s near enough impossible nowadays, last 6 clubs promoted have gone easily straight back down.

I genuinely think what Forest have done this season is massively under appreciated.

About 3 and half seasons ago they were bottom of the championship now third in the premier league and in the semi final of the FA cup.

They will drop back off and slide down the table next season, it’s inevitable imo

But that should take away what a brilliant season they having this season.

It wouldn’t happen again to a recently promoted club.

Basically championship clubs going up can’t win, don’t spend or spend a little bit you go back down.

Spent a lot like Forest did get to where they are and get criticized for spending too much!
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They’ve done superbly well. BUT shouldn’t have gone up. Huddersfield were victims of one of the worst reffing decisions I’ve ever seen…….and I’ve seen Graham Poll and Howard Webb disgracing themselves live in the flesh.
 
Mackemansj1 said:
It’s both cool that a club that’s size is holding its own and playing great football as it shows what can be done with enough money and the right setup. But I don’t think I’ve been in a first team Sunderland crowd that low even at roker park during the lean times.
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Aye every season they thrive should be making all our former owners cringe themselves to sleep.
 
riffraff said:
They’ve done superbly well. BUT shouldn’t have gone up. Huddersfield were victims of one of the worst reffing decisions I’ve ever seen…….and I’ve seen Graham Poll and Howard Webb disgracing themselves live in the flesh.
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That’s over the top mate there were possibly and I mean possibly two pens in that game, but they were no where as obvious as you making out.
 
CaptainRed said:
You're absolutely correct. I still remember one example where it would have either been John Hall or Shepherd who left a NUFC shirt on the back seat of his car with Del Piero written on the back and the press went into overdrive. Obviously it was a load of shite but it had them as the main news story again.

Sadly I think nowadays the footballing landscape has changed. Driven by the likes of Sky it's being hammered into everyone that the Premier League is the only league that matters. The Championship and it's clubs get virtually no media coverage at all anymore, with the slight exception of Leeds.

This weighs extra heavily on impressionable kids who have it drummed into them that the Premier is the be all and end all. That's why it's not only crucial we get back in it, but don't do what Southampton, Leicester and Ipswich have done and stink the place out before making a swift return.
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Aye. Ditto when Rooney was leaving Everton for Utd. Stories started in the NE press then moved into the national press about a mag bid. Everyone with a working knowledge of football knew it was bullshit but it had them as the lead story on both NE TV channels……..again.
 
All relatively small clubs with all the same thing in common. Players, owners and sponsors all want the same thing. To be as close as possible to the bright lights! I would be shocked if any of them would be where they are if they were a northern club.
 
Bear said:
They’ll be bottom half next season

Crap squad having freak season
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So what?

Doesn't stop this season being amazing for them, and them having CL football next year?

Would they have been better to have two utterly mediocre average years instead of one good, one bad?
 
Surely Leicester is the aim. Won the league 9 years ago and FA Cup 4 years ago. Just maybe ignore the fact they're about to be relegated for the second time since then.

Look at the money it took Chelsea to win things. Look at the money it took Man City to dominate. Look at the money it's taken for the Mags to get a League Cup.

You need money to win. And you need it to keep coming to keep winning. Money drops or fails in some way, it's just then about how big the burst of the bubble is.
 
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