bomber
Striker
The majority can,a Google brings up several results,56% (2 year old link) have a garage or driveway up to 2/3 have a driveway or garage.In 5-10 years time it'll be a lot higher.
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Arthur80
Midfield
I drive electric and have for about six years and think they're great but this isn't true in my experience.
bomber
Striker
No.Still 5-10 years for the govt to sort out street chargers or at least allow folk to run a cable across a path.
VINCENT VEGA
Winger
Yeah fair enough I had a read up, still many will be driveways not connected to the house so not necessarily ideal and many will have multiple cars and a single driveway. It still leaves a high percentage who can't charge at home.
bomber
Striker
The surveys suggest otherwise.
Arthur80
Midfield
I have a driveway in a newish build house but can't get a charge point installed because the land is split over neighbouring plots.
MonkeyLove
Striker
I think this is why the infrastructure and battery life is as important as the car.
We live in a Mews house. We have a garage and a driveway but it’s in a shared courtyard away from the house (Think they call in en bloc).
The Tesla Superfast chargers that get them to 90% in 15 minutes are fine. I’d happily go and park up in a petrol station and do that if it gave me 300 miles and I only needed to do it every 2 weeks.
But aside from Tesla the Superfast chargers don’t exist and most cars can’t do 300 miles on a charge so then you are more into an hour every week if you can’t charge at home which is a lot less appealing.
BMW did recently bring in wireless charging plates that you just pushed under the front of the car but think that’s early tech (And not sure how you would stop someone nicking them)
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bomber
Striker
More has to be made of work place charging imo,and Nissan cannot even do that properly.
Crook Mackem
Striker
this lack of ability to charge at home is just nonsense. how many people have an oil refinery in their garden. its a crap argument to use to beat EVs with.
the bottom line is an EV costs too much. only a select few have the additional coin lying about to throw at an EV instead of a similar sized non-EV car
the bottom line is an EV costs too much. only a select few have the additional coin lying about to throw at an EV instead of a similar sized non-EV car
MonkeyLove
Striker
This is what BMW have just introduced which could be a game changer for infrastructure particularly for those not with a driveway.
But would need to charge far more rapidly then 3 kw and need a way to stop them being nicked (Presume you could tether it to the car)
But still early tech advance that could solve a lot of the charging issues
But would need to charge far more rapidly then 3 kw and need a way to stop them being nicked (Presume you could tether it to the car)
But still early tech advance that could solve a lot of the charging issues
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Arthur80
Midfield
Apart from price I think work place charging is going to be a big part of any mass uptake. The car is sitting there 8-12 hours anyway so my as well be charging.
MonkeyLove
Striker
It isn’t rubbish to be fair.
Pick a random non Tesla as an example. Audi Q3 E Tron does about 200 mile real world range.
Ultra Fast public charging would take about 40 minutes to get to 80% according to Autotrader. So 160 miles say per charge. Average in the UK is 12,000 a year or 230 per week.
I’ve got a Shell Garage about 5 minutes away with fast charging but if I got one of those I’d still be doing a 1 hour round trip at least 1.5 times a week on average just to go charge.
And that’s if it’s not in use or not working where then your scrambling around to go find somewhere else.
I’m sure it works for some people who have access to a reliable and never occupied charger at work or similar.
But in general if you can’t charge at home it’s still a fuck on and time consuming to go and use public chargers even if you have Ultra fast ones nearby.
bomber
Striker
Exactly.Even if the business owner made a minimal profit the EV user unable to home charge would still be happy and it would still work out cheaper than petrol.
Crook Mackem
Striker
Apologies for being flippant.
I actually got a newer car this year and would of quite happily had an EV but the price point of them just made it totally unfeasible.
"new" stuff has to be convenient otherwise people will never take to it easily or quickly. Suppose in a decade or so's time we`ll have a lot of the garages turned into car parks with rapid chargers with coffee shops and the like dotted about with wifi so people can have a "graft from the garage" day
chopperrus
Winger
Must be a ball ache for those in high rise flats trailing a cable down from floor 40, then pulling it back up and storing 100 meters of cable.
S.S.R..
Striker
Just out of interest; reading about the car industry and companies like Nissan having execs saying they have 12 make-or-break months...
...say, if you were applying for a mortgage or whatever, would the banks look at the firm you're working for and reject the application based on the stability of the business?
...say, if you were applying for a mortgage or whatever, would the banks look at the firm you're working for and reject the application based on the stability of the business?
Libertine
Winger
Imagine all the claims going in for trips and falls from all the cables across the paths from all those 1000's of terraced cottages we have in Sunderland alone. Thats without the fact that nearly all the council/former council homes on estates have no drives.
ravydavygravy
Striker
Someone with a bit of clout needs to take a look around the 'North'.
EV charging is easy in the leafy home counties nee doubt.
Not an expert here but I’m gonna say no, worst case for the bank they repossess the house and recoup money.
Banks make money through lending money
It will.
