Disco_Pants93
Striker
The answers to the problem are out there which tells me most clubs aren't arsed about it happening. Those that are are doing something about it
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Passing on tickets to gain points
- Thread starter fishboy
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I don’t see why we need to be arsed tbh. Like I said earlier, it’s only an issue if it becomes a closed shop. It isn’t a closed shop at all. Nothing is ever going to be perfect or open to abuse.
Disco_Pants93
Striker
I agree mate.
Gronkowski
Midfield
It would still be meaningless as everyone would get 23 points regardless so might as well be at 0. And those who buy tickets for aways would still buy tickets for aways anyway
I'm very impressed at how chill everyone is in the North-East. Most of the places I have lived people would react very differently to someone barging into a queue ahead of them, particularly if it meant they would get entry.
BarnesPark
Midfield
If “loyalty” is proportional to spend, would you be broadly in favour of say, a premium membership scheme where for, say £1000 pa, a supporter would be guaranteed the option of purchasing an away ticket in the first phase?
You have to purchase a season ticket for 23. Season ticket holders are at an advantage of non season ticket holders by 23, so not meaningless.
But non season ticket holders could accrue points too. Whereas now you can get tickets in general sale, and go to a fair few home games and get no points are all. Seems fairer if you get a point a game, so say 15 homes and 3 from general sale gives you 18. You'll still be behind a season ticket holder for the "big aways", but you would feel you were getting some reward for the 18 matches you had attended.
The fairest system is those who have season tickets and those who have been to the most away games get priority.
BarnesPark
Midfield
Think most would agree.
Do you mean “been to the most away games” or do you mean “bought tickets for the most away games”?
Been to. To get enough points to get to the stage you can even buy for you have to do some miles.
Gronkowski
Midfield
But on 18 they would still be 5 below a ST holder who never bothers with an away anyway.
Seems unnecessary
I agree with that but I’m not sure it’s a small number - that said I have no direct evidence. But if you are saying that closing that avenue would kill off branches then surely it can’t be a pretty small number to have such an impact???
hank evans
Striker
The way it kills branches off is they can’t guarantee filling a bus, so they then can’t pre book it. I have no idea how the branches I use operate but the same lads go 90% of the time so don’t think they are heavily into point sharing. A fair way is needed and possibly fans need to be registered with branches and apply for own ticket specifying what branch they belong
There’s plenty of people on here would would disagree that it’s only a handful but as I’ve said earlier we don’t have hard evidence but when a branch sends an email to a member effectively saying can we use your number then that by itself would suggest it’s not just a few. I suspect what has happened is that this has been going on for quite a while and it was only a handful. But like all little scams that people turn a blind eye so they get bigger and bigger. And I agree 80% of the time it isn’t an issue but it’s the 20% that matters and is so irritating
They would still have priority. But my suggestion would enable [18] game attenders a little bit of a leg up over non- attenders.
That home season ticket holder who never goes to aways* won't be looking to buy a ticket in the away game phases, so doesn't matter. But the one with [18] would be above the person who wants to go to an away game who has no points and never attends home games. Currently the [18] point person counts the same as the non attender. Both on nil.
* if that home ST holder suddenly decides he wants to go to an away he has 23 points by sheer dint of having a ST.
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Definitely Maybe
Striker
I don't have any direct evidence either and haven't travelled with a branch for about 15 years. But when I did I would say probably 80% of the bus were regulars who went to pretty much every single game. The costs of running a bus were very high and a couple of empty seats often were the difference between it being financially viable to run a bus or not, with the price of fuel, insurance, coach hire etc now I imagine the margins are even tighter and if they aren't confident of filling it fairly fast in advance you'll probably find many of the branches just can't afford to take the chance and will wrap it in. But as I say, no direct evidence on that - just think a very small number of spare numbers with high points will make a very big difference.
I'm not massively bothered either way though really and it's not a hill worth dying on. Just think talk of ID checks and scanning biometrics is crazy for a fairly small problem. An immediate solution to ensure tickets reach those on fewer points would be for the ticket office to get their own house in order instead of the fiasco we had at Luton where tickets never reached anyone on less than 30 points but we sent 100 tickets back.
So you mean those who don’t have a season ticket but attend lots of home games?
BarnesPark
Midfield
If the club is really serious about reaching their net zero target by 2040, at some point they will need to address the impact of moving 2000-3000 fans every other week half way (and in some cases all the way) across the country and back to support the lads.
Given the large geographical spread of SAFC fans across the UK, it would probably make some sense to prioritise tickets for fans who reside closest to the destination stadiums and thus dramatically reduce the carbon footprint of the away trips. I for one live 15 miles from Luton, 20 miles from Loftus Road, 10 miles from Watford and 30 miles from Watford - on that basis I could attend all 4 games and generate less in terms of carbon emissions that a fan residing in Sunderland travelling to Leeds.
One to think about if we still want the club to be here in another 100 years.
Tongue firmly in cheek (but I'll take a spare for Milwall!
Given the large geographical spread of SAFC fans across the UK, it would probably make some sense to prioritise tickets for fans who reside closest to the destination stadiums and thus dramatically reduce the carbon footprint of the away trips. I for one live 15 miles from Luton, 20 miles from Loftus Road, 10 miles from Watford and 30 miles from Watford - on that basis I could attend all 4 games and generate less in terms of carbon emissions that a fan residing in Sunderland travelling to Leeds.
One to think about if we still want the club to be here in another 100 years.
Tongue firmly in cheek (but I'll take a spare for Milwall!
Debatable as I went door to door to QPR using nothing but public transport
BarnesPark
Midfield
Thing is, so did I!Debatable as I went door to door to QPR using nothing but public transport
