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Le Bris the yes man


Mickdundee said:
I think that player might have been Isador, based on RLB’s comments about coming from the same part of France and having tried to sign him for Lorient before.
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Perhaps. Though I also think Isidor fits into a similar mould with Rusyn- not just the region but looking at the leagues and seeing what type of deal might be possible. I get the feeling it's more like Isidor was on the list of possible targets and Le Bris might have pushed for it. I get the feeling that we got Isidor, mainly because we were a bit brave in working out a deal with a Russian club, (which is complex legally) and being proactive when we learnt he was available- probably helped by having an understanding of how a deal could and could not work via a vis the russian league (which becomes a mixture of long term planning, and the flexibility of having the knowledge in place and not spending all our money to be able to move quickly for a player that becomes available.)- I think Mundle is another example of this (though without the complex legal issue)

I Might be wrong though- he's a great signing whatever the story.
Get Into Em said:
Samed anorl was widely reported to have arrived due to Le Bris being interested in him whilst he was at Lorient. Although to be fair, a signing like him on paper likely would/should have been attempted whether or not Regis was here.
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I think both of these things can be true at the same time. I feel like the managers input in signings is that they will see a range of players we are interested in and will be able to state their preference.
If he sees Isidor on that list, and he knows this player- he might just push a little harder. So it becomes a combination of the scouting structure we have in place, and Le Bris' personal recommendation (I wonder whether at one point Isidor was on a list as an alternative To Mendy, but we moved for him anyway die to opportunity and Le Bris' recommendation, whilst not entirely giving up on Mendy.
Get Into Em said:
Samed anorl was widely reported to have arrived due to Le Bris being interested in him whilst he was at Lorient. Although to be fair, a signing like him on paper likely would/should have been attempted whether or not Regis was here.
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I think both of these things can be true at the same time. I feel like the managers input in signings is that they will see a range of players we are interested in and will be able to state their preference (and speakman will take it into account when making final decisions)
If he sees Isidor on that list, and he knows this player- he might just push a little harder. So it becomes a combination of the scouting structure we have in place, and Le Bris' personal recommendation (I wonder whether at one point Isidor was on a list as an alternative To Mendy, but we moved for him anyway die to opportunity and Le Bris' recommendation, whilst not entirely giving up on Mendy.
 
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and mowbray knows Dack, probably advise the board and they got him. Eventually the board wouldnt trust tony because of that. Both has a fall out and decided to sack him. But hey ho that what i think.
 
As You Were said:
Getting interviewed in northern echo saying happy to go forward with current coaching staff if club can’t find the right candidates. I bet speakman and KLD love him already. How hard can it be to find a no 2 or coach. Load of absolute bullshit. I’m sure I read somewhere else over the weekend he didn’t want to talk about strikers either. Just what Speakman and KLD wanted someone who wouldn’t speak out against the model. Let the relegation battle commence.
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As you weren’t, again
 
TikaTakaTico said:
Perhaps. Though I also think Isidor fits into a similar mould with Rusyn- not just the region but looking at the leagues and seeing what type of deal might be possible. I get the feeling it's more like Isidor was on the list of possible targets and Le Bris might have pushed for it. I get the feeling that we got Isidor, mainly because we were a bit brave in working out a deal with a Russian club, (which is complex legally) and being proactive when we learnt he was available- probably helped by having an understanding of how a deal could and could not work via a vis the russian league (which becomes a mixture of long term planning, and the flexibility of having the knowledge in place and not spending all our money to be able to move quickly for a player that becomes available.)- I think Mundle is another example of this (though without the complex legal issue)

I Might be wrong though- he's a great signing whatever the story.

I think both of these things can be true at the same time. I feel like the managers input in signings is that they will see a range of players we are interested in and will be able to state their preference.
If he sees Isidor on that list, and he knows this player- he might just push a little harder. So it becomes a combination of the scouting structure we have in place, and Le Bris' personal recommendation (I wonder whether at one point Isidor was on a list as an alternative To Mendy, but we moved for him anyway die to opportunity and Le Bris' recommendation, whilst not entirely giving up on Mendy.

I think both of these things can be true at the same time. I feel like the managers input in signings is that they will see a range of players we are interested in and will be able to state their preference (and speakman will take it into account when making final decisions)
If he sees Isidor on that list, and he knows this player- he might just push a little harder. So it becomes a combination of the scouting structure we have in place, and Le Bris' personal recommendation (I wonder whether at one point Isidor was on a list as an alternative To Mendy, but we moved for him anyway die to opportunity and Le Bris' recommendation, whilst not entirely giving up on Mendy.
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I hope speakman isnt making the final decision..he has never worked as a scout and we employ a head of recruitment that mowbrasy chose.
 
Madcap11 said:
and mowbray knows Dack, probably advise the board and they got him. Eventually the board wouldnt trust tony because of that. Both has a fall out and decided to sack him. But hey ho that what i think.
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hopefully no one is talking to the board about who we sign..speakman isnt even on the boeard...
 
kildaremackem said:
I hope speakman isnt making the final decision..he has never worked as a scout and we employ a head of recruitment that mowbrasy chose.
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He will be making the final decision, no first team transfers will take place without Speakman giving it the greenlight. Whatever the process is for identifying and recruiting players it is ultimately Speakman's decision, and ultimately his responsibility as well.

I Feel like I've had this type of argument before with you, so I'm just going to quickly define 'final decision'- the final decision, that finally decides whether a thing happens or whether it does not.
 
TikaTakaTico said:
He will be making the final decision, no first team transfers will take place without Speakman giving it the greenlight. Whatever the process is for identifying and recruiting players it is ultimately Speakman's decision, and ultimately his responsibility as well.

I Feel like I've had this type of argument before with you, so I'm just going to quickly define 'final decision'- the final decision, that finally decides whether a thing happens or whether it does not.
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the head coach has the final say, according to speakman, but the name is only proposed to the head coach after it has passed harvey, and then speakmans scurtiny. So the final person to express a view is the head coach, but no well run club any more lets the head coach make the decisions in isolation.
 
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