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SOL expansion


Blyth said:
The club needs to increase hospitality offering. It’s sold out and a waiting list. The only way to do it is add a stand.

It just is. Please don’t reply and say we could expand hospitality without adding a tier. You can’t. It wouldn’t make sense.
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We could easily add 20 or so boxes without expanding by ditching the Black Cats Bar and going slightly into the NE Corner, similar to how the SW corner has boxes behind. That would be the most sensible start for hospitality.

Wasn't there talk of moving out all the offices from the West Stand into Black Cat House and utilising that space aswell?

Plenty space for the time being without building another stand.
 
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Northumberland Rocks said:
What’s the issue with making it easy to get into the sol? A cash or card turnstiles would make it easier for a lot of people to attend including the casual supporter who might just want to turn up on the day.

Do you like the Escape Room experience Mr Holmes?
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You would need to employ a person and have provide the various tech to accept cards and cash to print tickets, possibly blocking seats for sale via the ticket office, all for a “casual supporter who might just want to turn up on the day” as you put it 😂
You are having a laugh surely !
 
Zimba said:
We could easily add 20 or so boxes without expanding by ditching the Black Cats Bar and going slightly into the NE Corner, similar to how the SW corner has boxes behind. That would be the most sensible start for hospitality.

Wasn't there talk of moving out all the offices from the West Stand into Black Cat House and utilising that space aswell?

Plenty space for the time being without building another stand.
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20 boxes isn’t going to cut it. They need more hospitality on top of that.
 
Blyth said:
20 boxes isn’t going to cut it. They need more hospitality on top of that.
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It's about stages though, there's only realistically so much you can do at one time and that would be a good start. I don't know how many people want boxes so can't say much really tbf.

Utilising blocks P12, P13 and P15 would be a decent place to do something aswell imo, using the space which is currently an office (if I'm correct) which is pretty much directly under them. They're some of the better seats in the stadium, even known they're not central.
 
Blyth said:
The club needs to increase hospitality offering. It’s sold out and a waiting list. The only way to do it is add a stand.

It just is. Please don’t reply and say we could expand hospitality without adding a tier. You can’t. It wouldn’t make sense.
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Hospitality isn't sold out though. There is hundreds of empty seats in the Hospitality areas every game both in the PC and West Stand. I've had emails for every game this season to upgrade. They cant give them away for tomorrow night!
 
Are thousands of Sunderland fans prepared to pay £2,000 for a season ticket - even to watch a decent PL side ? I don't think an expansion of the ground would generate significant extra revenue, unlike Villa, Leeds or even Fulham, to justify it.
 
Wearson said:
You would need to employ a person and have provide the various tech to accept cards and cash to print tickets, possibly blocking seats for sale via the ticket office, all for a “casual supporter who might just want to turn up on the day” as you put it 😂
You are having a laugh surely !
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It’s called being inclusive and customer focused.

You are having a laugh surely Mr Holmes? !!
 
BaconButty said:
Why does it need an expansion to be successful?
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We need revenue and future fans long term. Look at what out competitors are doing. There's a huge increase in facilities being offered which in turn allows stadia to be used 24/7. We've an opportunity with the bridge on its way. An Aston villa or Liverpool type of extension would add seats yes, but it's add space for fans to spend every day of the week.
 
Football Dinosaur said:
We need revenue and future fans long term. Look at what out competitors are doing. There's a huge increase in facilities being offered which in turn allows stadia to be used 24/7. We've an opportunity with the bridge on its way. An Aston villa or Liverpool type of extension would add seats yes, but it's add space for fans to spend every day of the week.
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Club missed a trick with the sheepfolds site, imagine that would have brought some revenue in
 
Football Dinosaur said:
We need revenue and future fans long term. Look at what out competitors are doing. There's a huge increase in facilities being offered which in turn allows stadia to be used 24/7. We've an opportunity with the bridge on its way. An Aston villa or Liverpool type of extension would add seats yes, but it's add space for fans to spend every day of the week.
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Aston Villa and Liverpool sell out every week. Huge waiting lists for season tickets. Leeds have 20k on their waiting list for a season ticket. We have none of that.

Take a look around you at the match tomorrow night. The place is looking tired and in desperate need of TLC. Once inside there'll likely be 15k empty seats.

The last thing we need is more of them. The place needs a good makeover. Not more seats that'll never be used.
 
CaptainRed said:
Aston Villa and Liverpool sell out every week. Huge waiting lists for season tickets. Leeds have 20k on their waiting list for a season ticket. We have none of that.

Take a look around you at the match tomorrow night. The place is looking tired and in desperate need of TLC. Once inside there'll likely be 15k empty seats.

The last thing we need is more of them. The place needs a good makeover. Not more seats that'll never be used.
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The 'makeover' would be part of a redevelopment and increase of capacity and facilities. We are close to capacity whilst 'enjoying' the longest period outside the top flight I'm our history. We've also sold all boxes, it'd be an increase to that along with a new bcb in South or East stand. Making the sol more attractive, especially in winter will increase revenue. The added seats can be used for extra tickets for kids. There's also a strong chance our economy is about to take off with many new arrivals to the city. If they integrate they'll be potential customers.
 
Football Dinosaur said:
The 'makeover' would be part of a redevelopment and increase of capacity and facilities. We are close to capacity whilst 'enjoying' the longest period outside the top flight I'm our history. We've also sold all boxes, it'd be an increase to that along with a new bcb in South or East stand. Making the sol more attractive, especially in winter will increase revenue. The added seats can be used for extra tickets for kids. There's also a strong chance our economy is about to take off with many new arrivals to the city. If they integrate they'll be potential customers.
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The stadium is hardly ever full. It cost Liverpool £200m to redevelop Anfield and get an extra 15k seats. They needed it due to huge demand for season tickets, and they can also charge upwards of £50 a ticket and still sell out no problem. We can't do any of that. We'd be spending best part of £200m with no chance of getting anywhere near any sort of return on it. We'd be creating more empty seats and more areas to maintain, and the areas we've got don't get maintained as it is.

What we need to do is spend money modernising what we already have. Tidy the place up, restore it to its former glory. Then sort the team out. Get promoted.

Finally if we do all that and then managed to establish ourselves in the PL for a number of years then maybe the demand will be there for an increase although anyone with any business sense would just bring our ticket prices in line with other PL clubs in which case the current capacity would be ample, rather than spending all that money increasing capacity and not getting a return on it.
 
CaptainRed said:
The stadium is hardly ever full. It cost Liverpool £200m to redevelop Anfield and get an extra 15k seats. They needed it due to huge demand for season tickets, and they can also charge upwards of £50 a ticket and still sell out no problem. We can't do any of that. We'd be spending best part of £200m with no chance of getting anywhere near any sort of return on it. We'd be creating more empty seats and more areas to maintain, and the areas we've got don't get maintained as it is.

What we need to do is spend money modernising what we already have. Tidy the place up, restore it to its former glory. Then sort the team out. Get promoted.

Finally if we do all that and then managed to establish ourselves in the PL for a number of years then maybe the demand will be there for an increase although anyone with any business sense would just bring our ticket prices in line with other PL clubs in which case the current capacity would be ample, rather than spending all that money increasing capacity and not getting a return on it.
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I think villa have put their expansion plans on hold because of the cost
 
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