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England v Australia second ODI Saturday 11am


None of the top six have batted in a fifty over game in this country for over a year

No the wonder they are clueless on how to bat to win a game at this level

Can anyone see anything that will change for the better in the coming years ?

The governing body actively and with glee have ruined England in white ball cricket
 
It’s a worldwide trend no top players in any country play domestic 50 over cricket anymore.

Ashwin was saying this last year that he had not played a 50 over game other than internationally for ages

As the top players play the T20 franchise circuit not 50 over domestically.

It is a problem but to just say it just happens in England is incorrect
 
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It’s a worldwide trend no top players in any country play domestic 50 over cricket.

As the top players play the T20 franchise circuit not 50 over domestically.

It is a problem but to just say it happens in England is incorrect
What happens overseas is their concern

In England in a few years time we shall see the 16.4 has caused untold damage to both the test and 50 over team for England

We’ve gone from holding both titles to dismal level and it’s all come when the 16.4 is played
 
What happens overseas is their concern

In England in a few years time we shall see the 16.4 has caused untold damage to both the test and 50 over team for England

We’ve gone from holding both titles to dismal level and it’s all come when the 16.4 is played
Unfortunately since the invent of T20 becoming extremely popular 50 over cricket domestically has become a second priority for ever country.
 
Unfortunately since the invent of T20 becoming extremely popular 50 over cricket domestically has become a second priority for ever country.
Don’t think so

Only one country in the world playing a game in the peak period of their summer

Pre 16.4 England were world champions in both formats

Now we are ranked lowly and will fall further

I’m having no more to say as I can be arsed on a tit for tat argument

You disagree I’ll never change that
 
Why is Bairstow not in this squad he’s miles better than anyone else in that top 4.
Hain should also be there if they aren’t gonna play Root but they are obsessed with selecting sloggers - Brooks comments the other day sum up everything wrong with the side at the moment
 
Don’t think so

Only one country in the world playing a game in the peak period of their summer

Pre 16.4 England were world champions in both formats

Now we are ranked lowly and will fall further

I’m having no more to say as I can be arsed on a tit for tat argument

You disagree I’ll never change that
If the hundred didn’t happen them top players would have just gone abroad and played in other franchise T20 leagues like the new one in America and still not played domestic 50 over cricket

Like I say no top players in all countries in this modern world play domestic 50 over cricket
 
Why is Bairstow not in this squad he’s miles better than anyone else in that top 4.
Hain should also be there if they aren’t gonna play Root but they are obsessed with selecting sloggers - Brooks comments the other day sum up everything wrong with the side at the moment
This. It's a T20 side. You need a few batsmen who can steady the ship.
 
If the hundred didn’t happen them top players would have just gone abroad and played in other franchise T20 leagues like the new one in America and still not played domestic 50 over cricket

Like I say no top players in all countries in this modern world play domestic 50 over cricket
You can’t know that

As I said I’m not playing tit for tat here

The hundred is ruining cricket in England. Nobody cares one iota who wins and this summers was a poor spectacle

Virtually no overseas stars and a million miles from the promised best v best

No other country is even contemplating that format

Where are all these investors supposedly gagging to buy in?
 
You can’t know that

As I said I’m not playing tit for tat here

The hundred is ruining cricket in England. Nobody cares one iota who wins and this summers was a poor spectacle

Virtually no overseas stars and a million miles from the promised best v best

No other country is even contemplating that format

Where are all these investors supposedly gagging to buy in?
That a different argument I agree the hundred been disappointing as overseas players been low quality with you there.

But since T20 has been introduced all the top white ball cricketers play franchise T20 not domestic 50 over cricket, we no different.

If all the other countries players were playing 50 over domestically and ours weren’t your point would be totally valid.

But they not, our players just doing what all the top international cricketers are doing
 
I’m not bothered about other countries

The governing body of England and Wales have created a tournament that nobody else plays and it’s going to ruin England at test, odi and t20 level which the whole world plays

That’s my point here , a really simple one , so let’s leave it there
Hopefully the investors in the hundred demand to change the tournament to T20 to mirror all the other tournaments around the world.

Should have been T20 in the first place not 100 balls
 
Interested in the thoughts on ODIs, above. I wonder if anyone else shares my creeping sense of disinterest in the 50 over game?
I used to defend 50 over cricket forcibly, arguing that the longer format (than t20) allowed for tactical twists and contrasting phases in a match. But, lately, I’m finding ODIs are neither one thing or the other, a stodgy in-between world between t20s and tests.
I still despair over England’s batting, though. And The Hundreds are pap, of course.
 
Interested in the thoughts on ODIs, above. I wonder if anyone else shares my creeping sense of disinterest in the 50 over game?
I used to defend 50 over cricket forcibly, arguing that the longer format (than t20) allowed for tactical twists and contrasting phases in a match. But, lately, I’m finding ODIs are neither one thing or the other, a stodgy in-between world between t20s and tests.
I still despair over England’s batting, though. And The Hundreds are pap, of course.

50 over games are a fairer contest between bat and ball. I celebrated the 2019 WC win more than I did either of the T20 ones tbh. I prefer a full day at the cricket tbh, a 4 hour T20 game goes too quick.
 
50 over games are a fairer contest between bat and ball. I celebrated the 2019 WC win more than I did either of the T20 ones tbh. I prefer a full day at the cricket tbh, a 4 hour T20 game goes too quick.
That’s good. I seem to be losing the feel for the ODIs somehow, though I love test cricket.
I think a positive to me is the finding, over the long term, that t20 isn’t just a matter of hit and run.
 
I know this sounds contradictory but might it be that 50 over cricket might survive by becoming 40 overs? Could reduce the slower mid innings bit while still giving the game some ebb and flow. 🤷‍♂️
 
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