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County Cricket 2024

Surrey poaching talented players again.

This time Yorkies Matthew Fisher.

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Parkside said:
Yeh,Durham have made some really good signings in recent years None though have come with a permanent sick note like Fisher
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Aye, I can't understand the signing that well (can only imagine they think we've lost Atkinson for good, and Roach/Abbott won't re-sign).
I just nibble at the "Surrey signing more players" shite when a) everyone makes signings, and b) we've arguably got the best academy in the country at the moment, that we prioritise above all else, especially when you look at our track record of bringing excellent players through in the last few years
 
TheRey said:
Aye, I can't understand the signing that well (can only imagine they think we've lost Atkinson for good, and Roach/Abbott won't re-sign).
I just nibble at the "Surrey signing more players" shite when a) everyone makes signings, and b) we've arguably got the best academy in the country at the moment, that we prioritise above all else, especially when you look at our track record of bringing excellent players through in the last few years
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Durham could justifiable make that claim until recently but now it's being neglected in favour of buying in.
However,If Surrey now have the best pathway,I don't disagree with that claim,why do they need to buy-in so many. Abbot,Clark,Foakes,Lawrence,Overton,Roach,Steel and Worrall form the nucleus of your team and none are academy products?
 
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Parkside said:
Durham could justifiable make that claim until recently but now it's being neglected in favour of buying in.
However,If Surrey now have the best pathway,I don't disagree with that claim,why do they need to buy-in so many. Abbot,Clark,Foakes,Lawrence,Overton,Roach,Steel and Worrall form the nucleus of your team and none are academy products?
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They've batted with a top 4 of Sibley, Burns, Pope and Smith for most of this season all homegrown.

They've produced the most for England apart from maybe Yorkshire for England since the Ashes in 2005.

Post Ashes debuts ones in bold played tests(I did this a while back before Atkinson/Smith played tests)

Durham: Plunkett, Mustard, Onions, Stokes ,Borthwick, Wood , Stoneman, Jennings, Potts, Carse

Surrey: Dernbach, Meaker, Carberry, Jordan, Ansari, Roy, Curran, Curran, Pope, Burns, Sibley, Jacks, Atkinson, Smith

I'll have to pull out Yorkshire too
 
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mackembhoy said:
They've batted with a top 4 of Sibley, Burns, Pope and Smith for most of this season all homegrown.

They've produced the most for England apart from maybe Yorkshire for England since the Ashes in 2005.

Post Ashes debuts ones in bold played tests(I did this a while back before Atkinson/Smith played tests)

Durham: Plunkett, Mustard, Onions, Stokes ,Borthwick, Wood , Stoneman, Jennings, Potts, Carse

Surrey: Dernbach, Meaker, Carberry, Jordan, Ansari, Roy, Curran, Curran, Pope, Burns, Sibley, Jacks, Atkinson, Smith

I'll have to pull out Yorkshire too
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Whitgift and Cranleigh schools grown surely😀. I acknowledge that Surrey have a strong pathway but,nevertheless, the core of their present CC team have been bought in.
 
Parkside said:
Whitgift and Cranleigh schools grown surely😀. I acknowledge that Surrey have a strong pathway but,nevertheless, the core of their present CC team have been bought in.
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5 of their last 11 in the CC were homegrown. Sibley, Burns, Smith, Patel, Lawes

They signed Foakes when he was 21 and made his debut at 22. Carse was 20/21 during his first summer with us signed from elsewhere.

I'd argue both clubs can claim the development of each player to an extent.

The point about private schools very much a good one. Always going to be harder for some counties to grow the same talent.
 
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mackembhoy said:
5 of their last 11 in the CC were homegrown. Sibley, Burns, Smith, Patel, Lawes

They signed Foakes when he was 21 and made his debut at 22. Carse was 20/21 during his first summer with us signed from elsewhere.

I'd argue both clubs can claim the development of each player to an extent.

The point about private schools very much a good one. Always going to be harder for some counties to grow the same talent.
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My comments were intended to be a bit tongue in cheek.Carse didn't come through the Academy but neither had he any 1st class experience when he came to Durham-as a teenager playing for Burnmoor, I believe. Foakes had 3 years at Essex,sufficiently established to be selected for 2 England Lions tours,before being signed by Surrey so the 2 situations aren't comparable.
I wouldn't deny Surrey have a good youth set up, helped undoubtedly by having 2 cricket centred independent schools as feeders. Pity is Durham appear to have regressed lately as an academy.I think we're missing Geoff Cook who was a proven talent spotter.
 
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Parkside said:
My comments were intended to be a bit tongue in cheek.Carse didn't come through the Academy but neither had he any 1st class experience when he came to Durham-as a teenager playing for Burnmoor, I believe. Foakes had 3 years at Essex,sufficiently established to be selected for 2 England Lions tours,before being signed by Surrey so the 2 situations aren't comparable.
I wouldn't deny Surrey have a good youth set up, helped undoubtedly by having 2 cricket centred independent schools as feeders. Pity is Durham appear to have regressed lately as an academy.I think we're missing Geoff Cook who was a proven talent spotter.
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Yes very fair

Look at how many fast bowlers they have on their books mind

Worrall
Roach
Overton
Lawes
Atkinson
J Clarke
Curran T
Curran S
C Jordan
C Mckerr
Dunn
Barnwell
Topley
Taylor
Fisher from next season.
 
Yeah course just mad that you've got a 32 year old Matt Dunn probably well paid to just play the One Day Cup
mackembhoy said:
You've effectively got 3 completely different attacks per competition.
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Look at the amount of players we lose over the course of a season - Tests, white ball, IPL, Hundred, Lions - there is certainly an argument that it's fair enough:lol:
Yeah course just mad that you've got a 32 year old Matt Dunn probably well paid to just play the One Day Cup
mackembhoy said:
You've effectively got 3 completely different attacks per competition.
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Look at the amount of players we lose over the course of a season - Tests, white ball, IPL, Hundred, Lions - there is certainly an argument that it's fair enough:lol:
 
What a match that was down in Kent.

3rd in the table now so win our final game and we at least get to play the eliminator or whatever it's called.
 
Aidan11 said:
What a match that was down in Kent.

3rd in the table now so win our final game and we at least get to play the eliminator or whatever it's called.
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A win on Wednesday and we're in the quarter finals, there's no reason why we can't go on to win it.

If we win and lancs beat Worcs then we'll end up with a home quarter final on Friday.
 
Northants have signed Indian spinner Chahal for the remainder of the season, and in his first game today he currently has figures of 4/10 from 5 overs against Kent :lol:
 
I was going to watch the end of the Leics v Hants One Day QF but I think they charge for streaming now.

Warks v Worcs it is then.
 
Aidan11 said:
I was going to watch the end of the Leics v Hants One Day QF but I think they charge for streaming now.

Warks v Worcs it is then.
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Trevaskis with an unbeaten 60 to get Leicestershire into the semis. Looks like he's had a useful tournament this year, mainly with the ball
 
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