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I've been on SSRI antidepressants for the past 14 years. Before that I'd be on them, feel much better, come off them(encouraged by GP), be fine for a few months then slowly drift downwards, not wanting to admit to myself that it was happening again. I'd go back the GP once i was really struggling to function, feeling a total failure. I then got a GP I really trusted (got the feeling she'd maybe experienced something similar herself) and said that I didn't want to feel under any pressure to come off them anymore. She agreed and when she moved on I was very forthright with my new GP. For me, they give a kind of 'cling film' protection. I can have down times, but don't get completely consumed by the anxiety and depression. It probably damps down the good feelings a little too, but for me, it's worth it to be shielded from the desperate lows.
That really resonates with me. My GP seeemed really determined that I come off antidepressants despite being on them for a long time and so on his advice I did and eventually the symptoms reappeared so I went back on them. He then said flippantly that it didnt matter that I was back on them because there were no known longterm risks associated with them anyway. That really annoyed me. I was quite happy on them and it felt I was made to suffer unnecessarily.
 

That really resonates with me. My GP seeemed really determined that I come off antidepressants despite being on them for a long time and so on his advice I did and eventually the symptoms reappeared so I went back on them. He then said flippantly that it didnt matter that I was back on them because there were no known longterm risks associated with them anyway. That really annoyed me. I was quite happy on them and it felt I was made to suffer unnecessarily.
That's shocking from a GP. You'd obviously been prescribed them for a specific reason & they'd worked in some fashion so why ask you to come off them? I'm baffled.
 
That's shocking from a GP. You'd obviously been prescribed them for a specific reason & they'd worked in some fashion so why ask you to come off them? I'm baffled.
Yeah I'm not sure he even explained why but it was a while ago. I can understand trying to make sure people arent taking them long term if the GP doesn't feel the patient needs them but the GP didnt really know me and Id already been on and off them for years before so I'm not sure why he was so keen or thought it was a good idea. The reality was that his judgement was wrong and I suffered for it.
 
Yeah I'm not sure he even explained why but it was a while ago. I can understand trying to make sure people arent taking them long term if the GP doesn't feel the patient needs them but the GP didnt really know me and Id already been on and off them for years before so I'm not sure why he was so keen or thought it was a good idea. The reality was that his judgement was wrong and I suffered for it.
I was always under the impression that patient care was the prime role of a medic. I can only think of one or two possible reasons to take anyone off a medication that is having a positive effect. By the simple fact you had them re-prescibed either by the same, or another, GP tells me you shouldn't have been taken off them. If there had been a specific medical reason surely you wouldn't have been re-prescribed the same. Strange.
 
So I've completed the counselling for my ASD. Interesting remark in the report. "Symptoms of PTSD indicated by the PCL-5 reduced from 50 to 28, which means they are not in the sub-clinical range." Whilst I have largley accepted my ASD diagnosis, my reading is there's still a way to go and the counsellor's gut is I'll probably be back.

I feel I've come a long way but am not quite there. I have to admit the activities of my former lady friend's supposedly alientated son mooching around my social media haven't helped as that was unsettling. I'd gone away, moved on, so why do that? If it had been a clean break before the counselling, then I'd probably be in a better position.

Let's see how the next few months go. I'm afraid the counsellor's gut may be right. I hope not as I don't want to be a perpetual victim. 🤔
 
So I've completed the counselling for my ASD. Interesting remark in the report. "Symptoms of PTSD indicated by the PCL-5 reduced from 50 to 28, which means they are not in the sub-clinical range." Whilst I have largley accepted my ASD diagnosis, my reading is there's still a way to go and the counsellor's gut is I'll probably be back.

I feel I've come a long way but am not quite there. I have to admit the activities of my former lady friend's supposedly alientated son mooching around my social media haven't helped as that was unsettling. I'd gone away, moved on, so why do that? If it had been a clean break before the counselling, then I'd probably be in a better position.

Let's see how the next few months go. I'm afraid the counsellor's gut may be right. I hope not as I don't want to be a perpetual victim. 🤔
Good for you. Use what you have learned going forward,

It is not unusual for people to return to therapy. We find it is maybe harder to implement the lessons learned, we slip back into destructive and harmful coping methods. Don't think going back is any sort of failure just acknowledge the help therapy gave you and you need more time to get those coping strategies embedded.
 
Good for you. Use what you have learned going forward,

It is not unusual for people to return to therapy. We find it is maybe harder to implement the lessons learned, we slip back into destructive and harmful coping methods. Don't think going back is any sort of failure just acknowledge the help therapy gave you and you need more time to get those coping strategies embedded.
Friday was another interesting day. I went for a dyspraxia diagnosis. It was a slam dunk with a score of 74 (56 probable, 64, extremely likely) and a higher score than I got for ASD.

But I was expecting it so it's not a negative. It's just another part of the journey and alongside the ASD, more learned about who I am.

I needed a long walk afterwards to think things through as I've had to with all the counselling sessions and assessments (Chester-le-Street to Durham via Finchale). However, I laughed and joked with the nurse all the way through. My attitude was a refreshing "Yea, whatever, another neurodiverse condition to add to the collection". And I gave the nurse a quick hug at the end to say thanks.

That contrasts deeply with the shock of the original ASD diagnosis, which really did knock me off kilter. So yes, I've moved on psychologically.

And it may be the AD-HD I thought I had is less of an issue than I thought. The symptoms I was exhibiting can probably be placed in either the ASD or dyspraxia camp.

The real me is quite laid back and AD-HD, although I am not discounting it, doesn't quite fit with that profile.
 
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Friday was another interesting day. I went for a dyspraxia diagnosis. It was a slam dunk with a score of 74 (56 probable, 64, extremely likely) and a higher score than I got for ASD.

But I was expecting it so it's not a negative. It's just another part of the journey and alongside the ASD, more learned about who I am.

I needed a long walk afterwards to think things through as I've had to with all the counselling sessions and assessments (Chester-le-Street to Durham via Finchale). However, I laughed and joked with the nurse all the way through. My attitude was a refreshing "Yea, whatever, another neurodiverse condition to add to the collection". And I gave the nurse a quick hug at the end to say thanks.

That contrasts deeply with the shock of the original ASD diagnosis, which really did knock me off kilter. So yes, I've moved on psychologically.

And it may be the AD-HD I thought I had is less of an issue than I thought. The symptoms I was exhibiting can probably be placed in either the ASD or dyspraxia camp.

The real me is quite laid back and AD-HD, although I am not discounting it, doesn't quite fit with that profile.
It's all part of your tapestry...I think once you know it makes it easier to understand yourself and therefore easier to regulate yourself
 
Friday was another interesting day. I went for a dyspraxia diagnosis. It was a slam dunk with a score of 74 (56 probable, 64, extremely likely) and a higher score than I got for ASD.

But I was expecting it so it's not a negative. It's just another part of the journey and alongside the ASD, more learned about who I am.

I needed a long walk afterwards to think things through as I've had to with all the counselling sessions and assessments (Chester-le-Street to Durham via Finchale). However, I laughed and joked with the nurse all the way through. My attitude was a refreshing "Yea, whatever, another neurodiverse condition to add to the collection". And I gave the nurse a quick hug at the end to say thanks.

That contrasts deeply with the shock of the original ASD diagnosis, which really did knock me off kilter. So yes, I've moved on psychologically.

And it may be the AD-HD I thought I had is less of an issue than I thought. The symptoms I was exhibiting can probably be placed in either the ASD or dyspraxia camp.

The real me is quite laid back and AD-HD, although I am not discounting it, doesn't quite fit with that profile.
That's the way to look at it, stay positive.
 
That really resonates with me. My GP seeemed really determined that I come off antidepressants despite being on them for a long time and so on his advice I did and eventually the symptoms reappeared so I went back on them. He then said flippantly that it didnt matter that I was back on them because there were no known longterm risks associated with them anyway. That really annoyed me. I was quite happy on them and it felt I was made to suffer unnecessarily.
To be fair, that's asked of by alot of medical people to see how people manage without becming dependent on them. He asked, you tried, it didn't work, you move on.

I'm not keen on medication as I feel my senses are dulled and I prefer to have my wits about me.
 
To be fair, that's asked of by alot of medical people to see how people manage without becming dependent on them. He asked, you tried, it didn't work, you move on.

I'm not keen on medication as I feel my senses are dulled and I prefer to have my wits about me.
As you've realised, most medications have positives & negatives so it's all about finding the best one for each individual. Maybe speak to whoever prescribed it to see if anything else has more tolerable effects.
 
To be fair, that's asked of by alot of medical people to see how people manage without becming dependent on them. He asked, you tried, it didn't work, you move on.

I'm not keen on medication as I feel my senses are dulled and I prefer to have my wits about me.
He didn't ask or advise he told me and repeatedly so. He did not outline the risks associated with that either. I felt badgered.

I also think its one thing if someone has been on meds for say six months to then try and come off them but I had already been using them for several years.

He asked, you tried, it didn't work, you move on.

I find this a very flippant and incensitive remark especially since you have made assumptions about the circumstances and you are not aware of the impact it had on me. I wasnt asked but felt pressured into doing something I wasnt comfortable doing. I ended up very ill and felt compelled to quit and walk away from my job as a result because I couldnt cope.
 
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He didn't ask or advise he told me and repeatedly so. He did not outline the risks associated with that either. I felt badgered.

I also think its one thing if someone has been on meds for say six months to then try and come off them but I had already been using them for several years.



I find this a very flippant and incensitive remark especially since you have made assumptions about the circumstances and you are not aware of the impact it had on me. I wasnt asked but felt pressured into doing something I wasnt comfortable doing. I ended up very ill and felt compelled to quit and walk away from my job as a result because I couldnt cope.
I'm sorry you feel that way as it wasn't my interntion to be flippant. I can only speak from my own perspective that I found anti-depressants made me feel numb thus after a brief period I walked away. I needed clarity.

If it's what works for you and if continuing anti-depressants is helping you going forward, then it's what you need to do.

If you felt you were pressured (you made the comment after my initial reply) and there was an adverse negative effect to the point it affected your life (walking away from your job), I personally would take my time and reconsider my relationship with that GP. You're a person, not a guinea pig.
 
Just an update from me. Got another month's prescription of Seteraline after they made a huge difference to how I'm feeling. Don't know if they're a long term solution but so far they're working and keeping the very dark thoughts at bay.
Class news. I've been on them for years and years (and other brands) and my doc says there's absolutely no reason you can't take them long term.

I just see them like me grandma's blood pressure medication. She had to take them every day to be healthy, and I have to take my tablets every day to be healthy.
 
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