Regis Le Bris - Backroom Staff

[riffraff]

From an owner's perspective he's done a great job, it's why I believed Lyon could have been looking at him. Obviously fans see things differently, if the team is winning he's doing a good job, otherwise he isn't.

It’s a shitload easier to turn one of the 12 biggest clubs in the country from an upper mid table 3rd flight position into a lower midtable second flight position than from where we are now to the PL. There’s literally hundreds of thousands of players available to do the first part. Merely thousands to do the next part.

It seems to me we’ve merely moved from managers sorting their mates out with jobs to back room staff sorting their mates out with jobs.

KS has done a good job so far. Hopefully the total fuckups are a result of KLDs financial restrictions and not KSs inadequacies

 

[Blyth]

Fuck me, now people are stating things that never happened as facts.

Some people just wanna go back to manager with feet up on the desk, tab burning on an ash tray, curly wired telephone glued to their ear, going through their rolodex.

It’s a shitload easier to turn one of the 12 biggest clubs in the country from an upper mid table 3rd flight position into a lower midtable second flight position than from where we are now to the PL. There’s literally hundreds of thousands of players available to do the first part. Merely thousands to do the next part.

It seems to me we’ve merely moved from managers sorting their mates out with jobs to back room staff sorting their mates out with jobs.

KS has done a good job so far. Hopefully the total fuckups are a result of KLDs financial restrictions and not KSs inadequacies

Easy you say? I must have imagined those glorious 4 years stuck in league one.

 

[G Force]

Some people just wanna go back to manager with feet up on the desk, tab burning on an ash tray, curly wired telephone glued to their ear, going through their rolodex.

Yours is just as much hyperbole as the lad you’re having a go at though

The same posters who claim the “SMB are demanding big signings and millions to spend”

While I don’t agree with the permanent “complainers”, there’s also very little balance from the ones who jump on anything they perceive to be a negative

The balance is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Rocky77]

Some of the recruitment has been great.

But when recruitment goes well he gets the credit. Stuart Harvey gets very little in comparison. Thats Stuart Harvey who is Head of Rec. Of those signings who are now our most saleable assets most were found by other clubs and we gave them a platform to reignite their stalling careers. Trai Hume, who is one we certainly did find, came from Stuart Harvey and his contacts in NI.

He is one of people but I repeat the best asset within the academy is Pruds.

There we go, even our good buys are the good work of other clubs

Proving my point perfectly. These good buys didnt work ive a sneaky feeling who you'd blame

 

[riffraff]

Some people just wanna go back to manager with feet up on the desk, tab burning on an ash tray, curly wired telephone glued to their ear, going through their rolodex.

Easy you say? I must have imagined those glorious 4 years stuck in league one.

Have another read of it. I didn’t say easy. I said easier than the next step.

 

[Blyth]

Have another read of it. I didn’t say easy. I said easier than the next step.

I’d we made the championship look easier under KLD than we ever did under Donald in league one.

Yours is just as much hyperbole as the lad you’re having a go at though

The same posters who claim the “SMB are demanding big signings and millions to spend”

While I don’t agree with the permanent “complainers”, there’s also very little balance from the ones who jump on anything they perceive to be a negative

The balance is somewhere in the middle.

How? I’m not saying my opinion as facts. I’m not claiming KS didn’t want Dodds as head coach. I don’t know, and I would never claim to either.

I’ve criticised the club plenty.

Unfortunately the staunch KLD/KS outers rarely praise anything.

Of course the balance is in between. I think that’s pretty obvious. Some excellent work. Some major fuck ups. But I don’t think any could argue that overall KLD hasn’t done a decent job here. He must learn from his mistakes though.

 

[Rocky77]

Yours is just as much hyperbole as the lad you’re having a go at though

The same posters who claim the “SMB are demanding big signings and millions to spend”

While I don’t agree with the permanent “complainers”, there’s also very little balance from the ones who jump on anything they perceive to be a negative

The balance is somewhere in the middle.

Of course it is but what some people fall into the trap (on here) of doing is somehow managing to blame the fans for it. Mental

 

[Provider]

Every thread. Anytime anyone says the slightest thing remotely critical about the club the same posters are out piling on, dissecting every word a poster has posted.

This board is really going to shite and it's not because of the "endless negativity".

 

[Rocky77]

Every thread. Anytime anyone says the slightest thing remotely critical about the club the same posters are out piling on, dissecting every word a poster has posted.

This board is really going to shite and it's not because of the "endless negativity".

Has to be balance to an argument, you don't get that on here. This morning proves that.

 

[Provider]

Has to be balance to an argument, you don't get that on here. This morning proves that.

Definitely. My point was about the posters who consistently jump on others as a pack who don't share their opinion dissecting every word of their post and calling them "liars" or "conspiracy theorists".

I’d we made the championship look easier under KLD than we ever did under Donald in league one.

How? I’m not saying my opinion as facts. I’m not claiming KS didn’t want Dodds as head coach. I don’t know, and I would never claim to either.

I’ve criticised the club plenty.

Unfortunately the staunch KLD/KS outers rarely praise anything.

Of course the balance is in between. I think that’s pretty obvious. Some excellent work. Some major fuck ups. But I don’t think any could argue that overall KLD hasn’t done a decent job here. He must learn from his mistakes though.

You're an embarrassment. You and @1more are the only two people who takes someone saying "Speakman was desperate to give Dodds the job" as if they are posting some kind of fact about the actual plans of the club.

Speakman had spoken openly less two months about Dodds being on the pathway to being a Head Coach. It's in no way unreasonable to suggest that him being given the job until the end of the season was a trial run to see how he'd do and if he did well he'd get the job permanently.

 

[Blyth]

Definitely. My point was about the posters who consistently jump on others as a pack who don't share their opinion dissecting every word of their post and calling them "liars" or "conspiracy theorists".

You're an embarrassment. You and @1more are the only two people who takes someone saying "Speakman was desperate to give Dodds the job" as if they are posting some kind of fact about the actual plans of the club.

Speakman had spoken openly less two months about Dodds being on the pathway to being a Head Coach. It's in no way unreasonable to suggest that him being given the job until the end of the season was a trial run to see how he'd do and if he did well he'd get the job permanently.

So he just made that bit up then? Also who has said if he’d done a great job he wouldn’t have been given the gig. That’s generally the way it works.

 

[Provider]

So he just made that bit up then? Also who has said if he’d done a great job he wouldn’t have been given the gig. That’s generally the way it works.

You're a lost cause.

 

[sunderpitt]

It’s a shitload easier to turn one of the 12 biggest clubs in the country from an upper mid table 3rd flight position into a lower midtable second flight position than from where we are now to the PL. There’s literally hundreds of thousands of players available to do the first part. Merely thousands to do the next part.

It seems to me we’ve merely moved from managers sorting their mates out with jobs to back room staff sorting their mates out with jobs.

KS has done a good job so far. Hopefully the total fuckups are a result of KLDs financial restrictions and not KSs inadequacies

It could be both!

 

[Blyth]

You're a lost cause.

Ah Reeto. So you can’t answer that then. Fair enough

 

[Provider]

Ah Reeto. So you can’t answer that then. Fair enough

There's no point in debating with you when you take people's words so literally.

Only you and one other person think that he was actually claiming he knew facts about what was going on.

Have you never looked at a situation and had thoughts as to why it's playing out in such a way?

 

[1more]

Facts vs make believe

There's no point in debating with you when you take people's words so literally.

Only you and one other person think that he was actually claiming he knew facts about what was going on.

Have you never looked at a situation and had thoughts as to why it's playing out in such a way?

Opinions are fair as long as they are only that, opinions.

When opinions are passed off as make believe facts that'd when I take exception.

 

[Red and white TID]

Dodds was an interim head coach who was never going to be given it permanently..it's not difficult to understand

You are difficult to understand.
Nobody cares if you think that Dodds wasn’t going to be given the managers job, which if he had got us into the playoffs or even got us promoted he would have got job, yes of course he would.
But he was given an unbelievable opportunity & made a complete arse of it on every level.
So why the hell is he still at our club.
Please don’t comeback with he’s a great coach as you have no idea.
The only way we can look at his coaching was when he was effectively head coach & the football was truly awful.

 

[riffraff]

I’d we made the championship look easier under KLD than we ever did under Donald in league one.

How? I’m not saying my opinion as facts. I’m not claiming KS didn’t want Dodds as head coach. I don’t know, and I would never claim to either.

I’ve criticised the club plenty.

Unfortunately the staunch KLD/KS outers rarely praise anything.

Of course the balance is in between. I think that’s pretty obvious. Some excellent work. Some major fuck ups. But I don’t think any could argue that overall KLD hasn’t done a decent job here. He must learn from his mistakes though.

You’ve lost me. I’ve no idea what you’re getting at. All I said was it’s easier to get from midtable L1 to midtable Championship than it is to get from mid table championship to the PL.
I’m not digging either KLD or KS out here. I agree weve looked better under KLD in both divs becos we’ve people on the board who know wtf they’re doing which we didn’t under DS. Enjoy your day.

 

[Provider]

Facts vs make believe

Opinions are fair as long as they are only that, opinions.

When opinions are passed off as make believe facts that'd when I take exception.

Someone saying "Speakman was desperate to give Dodds the job" isn't any kind of fact though. In no way was that poster trying to claim that he knew the inner workings of the club.

It's in no way unreasonable to suggest that Dodds getting the gig until the end of the season was a trial run for him getting it permanently. That's all the poster was getting at but the usual suspects have jumped all over the wording used.

 

[Blyth]

There's no point in debating with you when you take people's words so literally.

Only you and one other person think that he was actually claiming he knew facts about what was going on.

Have you never looked at a situation and had thoughts as to why it's playing out in such a way?

Of course I have. But I’ve never posted them as facts.

It’s not hard to say I think Jack Clarke will be away this summer, as opposed to Jack Clare is leaving this summer.

One is opinion and one is stated as fact.

If someone says KS was desperate for dodds to get the job, how are people supposed to take that? Oh he didn’t mean it. Ok.

For all we know he might be. Again I’m not saying either way, as I don’t know.

You’re right there’s no point engaging. Least that’s something we can both agree on.

It's in no way unreasonable to suggest that Dodds getting the gig until the end of the season was a trial run for him getting it permanently.

No one has said that’s not the case.