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Bairstow tbf has had a few seeds get him out this series. Others seem to want to give their wickets awayBrook comes in for Bairstow when he’s available. I fear they’ll drop Foakes though
It was when other regimes were dropping players right left and centre English test fortunes were shit and players were frightened to play their natural game because of it and the pressure they were under.This will be controversial, but wasn’t McCullum a bit overrated but had a huge exciting innings in him? This lot are the same 0,4,16,12,11,2,47.,0,0,3, 185of 92 balls people only remember the 185.
Today has been a disaster. Root and Bairstow would be beating the drop in any other regime
Also felt he batted very well in the last 3 Ashes tests.Bairstow tbf has had a few seeds get him out this series. Others seem to want to give their wickets away
Yeah was crazy he was dropped at the start of the ashes. Him and root were the most in form bats leading up to itAlso felt he batted very well in the last 3 Ashes tests.
The big problem for Bairstow and Root is that their current form is carrying on from poo world cups for both
Given the modern concept of the tour, where even the first choice eleven in this case hasn’t even stayed in the country for the whole of it, I don’t think the old concept of “keeping them with the squad” has any real meaning anymore. it’s not as if if we wanted one of the lions to play in the fifth test we’d need to get him off the boat at Durban and turn him round.Doesn’t make much sense having the lions in India, but then send them home mid-series without anyone joining up with the main squad.
No you are right we should just keep happy clapping and do the same thing game after game and then question why nothing ever changes. Isn’t the first team we’ve folded like this under this situation either - can get over it the first time it happens as shit happens, but second time? No thought whatsoever goes into our play at timesOf course it isn’t.
It’s taking stock and realizing today was bad and fine tuning it for the future.
The poster suggesting dropping a large chunk of players including our best batsman ever to teach them a lesson.
Completely bonkers!!
It’s dead easy to say game awareness everytime we collapse (which we did plenty playing conventional cricket) Now this definitely applies to Root but Duckett for years has played cricket always putting bat to ball and got 153. Does it apply to Pope and Bairstow being out LBW or Crawley out yesterday. That’s your top 5. It’s been a terrible day with the bat but it’s we have loads of these before playing a different way.Aggers on BBC
England have chucked it away. Test cricket is played over a long five days. You have to be tactically flexible and apply common sense, according to the match situation. England have failed spectacularly.
No you are right we should just keep happy clapping and do the same thing game after game and then question why nothing ever changes. Isn’t the first team we’ve folded like this under this situation either - can get over it the first time it happens as shit happens, but second time? No thought whatsoever goes into our play at times
Its supporting a sport Team on a messageboardWhen we play shit like we have had this morning and granted it’s been really really bad there is a lot more posts and criticism on these threads.
Than massive praise when we playing absolutely brilliantly and destroying teams with brilliant attacking cricket
It genuinely confuses me, is it a English thing or a cricket fan thing?
Root, stokes are the two key culprits. Crawley yesterday too, albeit without the circumstances hanging over him at the time. Absolutely brain deadIt’s dead easy to say game awareness everytime we collapse (which we did plenty playing conventional cricket) Now this definitely applies to Root but Duckett for years has played cricket always putting bat to ball and got 153. Does it apply to Pope and Bairstow being out LBW or Crawley out yesterday. That’s your top 5. It’s been a terrible day with the bat but it’s we have loads of these before playing a different way.
It’s a balance mate, and accepting your point which is a good one.No you are right we should just keep happy clapping and do the same thing game after game and then question why nothing ever changes. Isn’t the first team we’ve folded like this under this situation either - can get over it the first time it happens as shit happens, but second time? No thought whatsoever goes into our play at times
It’s a discussion forum. There’s not a lot to discuss when we win and play well. That’s ultimately why there’s less posts when we win. What do you want, 1000 posts kissing up to the same players and agreeing with each other? There’s obviously more to discuss when things go wrong, same in football (hence the match thread differences)When we play shit like we have had this morning and granted it’s been really really bad there is a lot more posts and criticism on these threads.
Than massive praise when we playing absolutely brilliantly and destroying teams with brilliant attacking cricket
It genuinely confuses me, is it an English thing or a cricket fan thing?
Also gives that stability in the middle order. Depending on game situation that is needed, and in this series we need it
So we should just accept losing 4-1 here because we lost 5-0 last time?It’s a balance mate, and accepting your point which is a good one.
And fining tuning it!
As for game after game!
I am not sure you realize it, but before this regime and this new approach we had won one in 17 tests and since this approach have been on one of the most successful runs English test cricket has ever seen!!!
Think the third alternative to consider is that it’s a football fan thing. PF is typically an even more extreme version of the same thing.When we play shit like we have had this morning and granted it’s been really really bad there is a lot more posts and criticism on these threads.
Than massive praise when we playing absolutely brilliantly and destroying teams with brilliant attacking cricket
It genuinely confuses me, is it an English thing or a cricket fan thing?