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Is Boro a derby?

seahamstar said:
Sorry mate, but you don't make the boundaries.
Going by your 'logic', then you could argue that south of the Tyne isn't north-east, as the Northumberland coast stretches up to the Scottish border.

I think it's called denial, and people being desperate to 'fit in' with the crowd.
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Sounds like it’s in North Yorkshire to me? Never really considered North Yorkshire/ South of the Tees the North East?!

Not really arsed either way mind. Like seeing Boro along with some of the other Yorkshire /Northern clubs do well like Bradford or the Sheffield clubs for example.
 

scott934 said:
I would say even the mag derby is dead now, they barely cheered when they beat us a few weeks ago, and a lot of us felt zero devastation afterwards.

Boro are a local version of Coventry, we rarely beat either, they both probably hate us more than any other club.

Are there Sunderland fans on the Boro board? I'm not calling anyone obsessed because that's sad as fuck, but ha'way, I bet it's all Boro on your forum.
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We do have a few Sunderland fans on our board but admittedly there are more Boro fans on here than Sunderland fans on our board.
 
SR7 said:
It’s obviously a rivalry, but I definitely don’t consider it a derby. I work with a lot of boro fans as I’m based down Stockton and they’re alright for the whole. Whereas mags are majority insufferable wankers. I detest Newcastle united with every fibre of my being.
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Doesn’t that counter the argument of what some say though “we work with mags” etc, if you work with Boro fans and on Teesside, surely you don’t want to go in next week getting
CostadelRoker said:
“Middlesbrough (
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Sounds like it’s in North Yorkshire to me? Never really considered North Yorkshire/ South of the Tees the North East?!

Not really arsed either way mind. Like seeing Boro along with some of the other Yorkshire /Northern clubs do well like Bradford or the Sheffield clubs for example.
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“North East England is one of nine official at the first level of for purposes. The region has three current administrative levels below the region level in the region: , or , and . They are also multiple divisions without administrative functions; , emergency services ( and ), and . The largest settlements in the region are , , , , , and ”

Sounds like North East to me, how can a town more Northern than Darlington not be in the North East purely on county boundaries alone? Doesn’t make sense really does it?
 
The rivalry from our fan base point of view is definitely age related to the individual fan.

I’m 51 , in the 80s and 90s we played them more than the mags .

Hence it was a derby to me.

I always hated the mags more “it’s my birthright as a lads fan” .

But I did view them as a derby growing up.
 
It's a derby "lite" or diet variety. It's not the mags and doesn't carry anywhere near the chew and emotion. It's bigger than a normal game though and I'll be happier more if we beat them more than a normal win.
 
joshmill23 said:
Sounds like North East to me, how can a town more Northern than Darlington not be in the North East purely on county boundaries alone? Doesn’t make sense really does it?
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While I have no interest in whether Middlesbrough is in the NE or not, I don’t think that logic quite holds up.

The north west comes further south than Lincoln, but that doesn’t make Lincoln north east, or even north.

Or parts of the NE are further west than parts of the SW. The boundaries of regions are drawn up for many reasons and aren’t a fixed line. They move for administrative and other purposes. They’re not arbitrary, but they aren’t definitive. There are many ways to define reasons

Boundaries aren’t perfect things and reflect culture and geography and - as such - you could easily have a town further south in the “north” and vice versa
 
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yes its a derby ever since i was a kid going to Roker Park, its always been a derby, seems a lot of the new generation of supporters seem to think its not but it is and ALWAYS has been a North East derby
Eric gates hair said:
The rivalry from our fan base point of view is definitely age related to the individual fan.

I’m 51 , in the 80s and 90s we played them more than the mags .

Hence it was a derby to me.

I always hated the mags more “it’s my birthright as a lads fan” .

But I did view them as a derby growing up.
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this we are of the same age and i agree totally
 
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Thewall said:
Yes it is a derby. Thread full of people saying no as they want to piss off boro fans and wind them up.
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If you come from, say, South Tyneside and mix with no Boro fans it’s totally legitimate to think nowt of it. If you come from Billingham or somewhere fair enough.

I’m going tomorrow and a win genuinely won’t mean anything more than beating West Brom (another team in a similar league position).
 
CostadelRoker said:
“Middlesbrough (
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Sounds like it’s in North Yorkshire to me? Never really considered North Yorkshire/ South of the Tees the North East?!

Not really arsed either way mind. Like seeing Boro along with some of the other Yorkshire /Northern clubs do well like Bradford or the Sheffield clubs for example.
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All about opinions i suppose.
I agree that Middlesbrough is a North Yorkshire town (my birth certificate says Middlesbrough North Riding of Yorkshire), but i guess the opinion bit comes from where the North east starts and ends .

Like you though, cant say i'm arsed.
I also dont mind seeing Northern clubs do well - including yourselves and your friends from up the road.
doodlebugs said:
A19 derby bout the nearest i come up wi
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Reminds me of the time a few years back when we played Newport County in the cup (and got beat!!!).
Certain media outlets were calling it the 'Transporter bridge derby', which i found quite amusing.
 
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joshmill23 said:
Doesn’t that counter the argument of what some say though “we work with mags” etc, if you work with Boro fans and on Teesside, surely you don’t want to go in next week getting


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purposes. The region has three current administrative levels below the region level in the region: , or , and . They are also multiple divisions without administrative functions; , emergency services ( and ), and . The largest settlements in the region are , , , , , and ”

Sounds like North East to me, how can a town more Northern than Darlington not be in the North East purely on county boundaries alone? Doesn’t make sense really does it?
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I think it's north east .I mean I'm born and bred shildon about 7 mile from the river tees .we had the coal mines all around us in Shildon itself etc.never thought I was born on the edge of the North east .
Total bollocks
 
woodlebert said:
While I have no interest in whether Middlesbrough is in the NE or not, I don’t think that logic quite holds up.

The north west comes further south than Lincoln, but that doesn’t make Lincoln north east, or even north.

Or parts of the NE are further west than parts of the SW. The boundaries of regions are drawn up for many reasons and aren’t a fixed line. They move for administrative and other purposes. They’re not arbitrary, but they aren’t definitive. There are many ways to define reasons

Boundaries aren’t perfect things and reflect culture and geography and - as such - you could easily have a town further south in the “north” and vice versa
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Middlesbrough is 100% in the North East mate, regions aren’t determined by rivers, counties are.
 
Is Arsenal v Luton as derby?

The distance between the clubs is almost the same as it is between Sunderland and Boro and like SAFC & Boro both clubs are not even in the same county.

How about Brentford v Reading they are closer to each other than Sunderland & Boro and they are both in the Home Counties?
 
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joshmill23 said:
Middlesbrough is 100% in the North East mate, regions aren’t determined by rivers, counties are.
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Where does the North East end and North Yorkshire begin? Genuine question by the way as a lot of sources say including Wikipedia (not always the most reliable) that Middlesbrough is a town in North Yorkshire.

I genuinely thought that Middlesbrough along with Whitby and Scarborough were in North Yorkshire??
 
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Middlesbrough is in North Yorkshire. Their own fans v Chelsea said it was. After the match the interviewed fan said we havnt done bad for a team in North Yorkshire.

I find it a bit of a rivalry. It’s not a derby. I don’t mind the little stinkers that much either. Where as the detest is strong towards Newcastle and I wish everyone of their fans a hedgehog for their next shites
 
CostadelRoker said:
Where does the North East end and North Yorkshire begin? Genuine question by the way as a lot of sources say including Wikipedia (not always the most reliable) that Middlesbrough is a town in North Yorkshire.

I genuinely thought that Middlesbrough along with Whitby and Scarborough were in North Yorkshire??
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The old Durham/Yorkshire boundary was the River Tees ie: Stockton in Durham, Thornaby/Boro in Yorkshire.
But, who's to say that parts of Yorkshire isn't in the north east?
I read something today that was describing Whitby as a town in the north east of England.

To me, it's similar to the 'derby or not' crap - don't see how it matters myself, although I do suspect that a lot of the 'denial' by Sunderland fans is because of your terrible record at our place - make out that it's not a big/important game.
 
It’s not our derby, but I wish we treated it like a derby (as bro do) and we might have more success as they usually seem more fired up than we do.
 
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