1-1. Classic derby resultI’ve got a horrible feeling you’ll beat us, I’ve have it large all week to my Sunderland mates and when I seen a stat that you’ve only won 3 times in the league since 54’ it tells me a win is overduewould like to see both clubs push for the play offs but I think it could only only be one of us plus Hull with their Jan business look really strong imo.
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Is Boro a derby?
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forzamilansafc
Striker
People who say its not a derby are just lying to themselves and they think its a dig at boro.
Yes its a derby, just not our main derby
Yes its a derby, just not our main derby
Rokerparkpies
Striker
The Edgy Derby
Pick Nickering
Goalkeeper
I don’t check their result every week hoping they lose. I don’t think their fans are weird. I don’t have any nerves during the build up. I don’t check the fixtures to see when we’re playing them. It just doesn’t have that derby feel to it. Neither does the mags since their takeover come to think of it.
Fredericton
Central Defender
Not quite a derby for me though the press want it to be and big it up.
Depends I think on where you live in the region, I'm in the north and barely even think of Middlesbrough never mind go there. There's only us and mags around me and coming across a Boro fan is a rare event. But I understand that Sunderland fans a bit further south will probably have a different attitude, and that for Boro we're really their nearest rivals.
Depends I think on where you live in the region, I'm in the north and barely even think of Middlesbrough never mind go there. There's only us and mags around me and coming across a Boro fan is a rare event. But I understand that Sunderland fans a bit further south will probably have a different attitude, and that for Boro we're really their nearest rivals.
Redandwhitedust
Striker
That's the answer like.
To be fair I have closer mates who are Boro fans than I do the Mags, but losing to Middlesbrough hurts much less than losing to Newcastle.
But losing to them hurts more than losing to someone like Hull or Ipswich
SteveFTM
Striker
Cacbable ^
I've been lying to myself for decades then, it's not a derby. How the f*ck is that a dig at Boro?
wev17
Winger
Sunderland haven't tended to have a better team than Boro since 1960 mind. Finishing position of each club since 1960 actually indicates Boro have edged it. Look at the finishing position of each club in the 64 years since 1960 - Boro finished above Sunderland 35 times. Sunderland above Boro 29 times.
Not trying to point score - both teams have had dismal periods. But you can't forget boro have had some very good teams in that period - Charlton, Rioch, Robson and McLaren all lead very good Boro teams through the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s that were often just better than Sunderland (although it doesn't explain how bad your record is).
I just don't buy this argument of Boro having the record they do because they see it as a bigger game. We have horrendous records against a few clubs in the championship and it isn't because them clubs see it as a huge game, get really up for it and we don't care as much. It's just a quirk of football. Leeds have an excellent record against us and trust me we are always massively up for it.
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Teesside_Steve
Midfield
This debate has been done to death but for me it's simple. Boro, Sunderland and Newcastle are North-East clubs, therefore when we play each other it's a regional derby, I'm not sure why some people struggle to understand that.
If it doesn't feel like a derby then that's fair enough, but it doesn't change the fact that factually it's a derby.
One thing I will say. If you go on the Boro board you'll find there isn't an 11 paged thread on Sunderland, yet we're the ones who are supposedly obsessed.
If it doesn't feel like a derby then that's fair enough, but it doesn't change the fact that factually it's a derby.
One thing I will say. If you go on the Boro board you'll find there isn't an 11 paged thread on Sunderland, yet we're the ones who are supposedly obsessed.
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wev17
Winger
Great post. It's a a shame it has become devalued. The more games like this the better, surely? Especially for Sunderland and Boro in the far corner of the country.
What’s a Derby is the first question?
When you hate the other team?
When the thought of it fills you with dred.?
When special police measures are needed?
When it’s the biggest crowd of the season?
When it’s the nearest town/in the same town/same conurbation?
When there is some historical reason
I think only the third one applies for me … so I don’t think it’s a Derby.
I used to think it was when I was a boy mind.
Don’t forget Scarbourgh , Whitby and Harrogate
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CostadelRoker
Midfield
Boro is in Yorkshire, south of the Tees isn’t the North East.
To be honest my attitude to the mags and Boro was pretty similar in the 70s but there was no way near the levels of hate that have existed since the days of John Hall and the creation of the Geordie nation. Before then we were so similar. Since then they have become the most arrogant, deluded and disrespectful supporters on the planet, hate them with a passion
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Teesside_Steve
Midfield
Alright daft lad.
I would say even the mag derby is dead now, they barely cheered when they beat us a few weeks ago, and a lot of us felt zero devastation afterwards.
Boro are a local version of Coventry, we rarely beat either, they both probably hate us more than any other club.
Boro are a local version of Coventry, we rarely beat either, they both probably hate us more than any other club.
Are there Sunderland fans on the Boro board? I'm not calling anyone obsessed because that's sad as fuck, but ha'way, I bet it's all Boro on your forum.
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wev17
Winger
Yeah there is - not as many. This is a very busy board compared to most clubs though.
Fredericton
Central Defender
Sums it up exactly. The John Hall period changed attitudes so much, particularly the conceit and condescension shown by mag supporters to anything to do with Sunderland. Sadly, with their current resurgence it’s like turning the clock back to the nineties. In well over 50 years I’ve never hated them so much.
Sunderlandellight
Central Defender
North Shields v South Shields is the derby to end all derbies.
Which forum?
