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*~*~* Sunderland v Hull match thread *~*~*


just over a month ago we beat wba and leeds in space of 4 days, whats gone wrong ???

Dunno, but we appointed Beale a month and one day ago.

Coincidence?
Pritchard arguing with Beale in the first half just sums it up and for me shows the mood in the dressing room

And yet we had a great dressing room a month or two back….

Wonder what ( who ) changed it?
 
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When they got that corner incorrectly, first of the match. Thousands must have had the "here we go" thought.

But I still couldn't believe it when the ball went in. Why is this happening? jinx? If it can go bad, it does. Feels like all the comradery has gone with the players.

Jobe, for the love of god rest him, figure out his best position. Our midfield is just too deep all the time, JC crowded out, did very well to even get in their box.

Strikers had no chances. Starting Pritch on the right wing....
 
But I still couldn't believe it when the ball went in. Why is this happening? jinx? If it can go bad, it does. Feels like all the comradery has gone with the players.
the boring answer is because Carvalho hit it first time and took a chance.

We are so cautious with everything we do and it allows defenders to set themselves or get blocks in.
 
Don’t think I’ve seen pattison come and catch a corner for 3 seasons
I really like Patterson but his slow and labourer approach is driving me insane at the moment.

His passing out to our players from the back even slows us down, he puts no pace on the balls at all and players to have to stop or even run back to collect the ball.
 
The tactics were shocking tonight Ekwah playing ontop of the defenders with our whole midfield upfront , he was getting the ball and didn’t have another midfielder anywhere near him, why is he playing so deep thought that was the purpose of playing onien to bring the ball out, there is no purpose of him been there everything he done a centre half could do. The main problem tonight was the gap between him and the rest of the midfield when he was getting the ball
 
The tactics were shocking tonight Ekwah playing ontop of the defenders with our whole midfield upfront , he was getting the ball and didn’t have another midfielder anywhere near him, why is he playing so deep thought that was the purpose of playing onien to bring the ball out, there is no purpose of him been there everything he done a centre half could do. The main problem tonight was the gap between him and the rest of the midfield when he was getting the ball He had nobody to pass too and had to keep going back. At one point tonight w head a throw in over half way and ended up going back to our keeper !
 
Possession based football with no purpose.

That’s how Tony Cascarino just described our style under Beale before adding, 10 times out of 10 it’s an approach that doesn’t work.

Hard to disagree with Cas. 👏
 
The main problem was obvious at 7pm. We’d more or less abandoned the right side. A centre half right back, who, to be fair to him will defend adequately, but won’t get up the pitch. A central midfielder/no.10 on the right who will want to come inside & rarely be on the line.

Left side you’ve got Clarke who teams double up on regardless, but now as you don’t have a right hand side threat it’s easier to concentrate on that area to nullify. Then you’re left with the central options in a team that has struggled all season to create & get forward without using the wingers.

Then you’ve got Bellingham, who I think was fantastic early doors, looking slow & cumbersome physically, the same way Callum Doyle did at this point after we played him every minute, but he also looks like he’s lost any confidence, swagger, dominance because of it too. He’s been managed terribly, but even Mowbray didn’t used to leave him on the pitch for 90mins. He’s went from being a 17yr old I couldn’t believe looked so good, psychically against blokes, to an 18yr old who looks like a passenger & doesn’t quite know where he fits. That’s down to our management if him, not the player.

Worrying thing is, I think these things are common sense & it feels like the staff are blind to it.

I always said we have to give Beale a chance, but fuck me, he’s not helping himself.
 
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At one point Clarke got the ball and there were 4 Hull players in the vicinity, Jobe now looks like a bloke getting up for work at 6.00am on a Monday having spent the weekend on the pisss.
If I was Hull manager last night it would have been simple, stop the left. & as you said, the amount of players they got round him was mad.

Yet we set up to so naturally everything would move that way because we didn’t have anyone on the right hand line.
 
The tactics were shocking tonight Ekwah playing ontop of the defenders with our whole midfield upfront , he was getting the ball and didn’t have another midfielder anywhere near him, why is he playing so deep thought that was the purpose of playing onien to bring the ball out, there is no purpose of him been there everything he done a centre half could do. The main problem tonight was the gap between him and the rest of the midfield when he was getting the ball He had nobody to pass too and had to keep going back. At one point tonight w head a throw in over half way and ended up going back to our keeper !

Ive said exact same thing elsewhere

A proper manager would have changed things after 15minutes.

WHy the hell didnt he utilise pritch more. He should of been the difference between the 2 sides and able to hurt them through the middle. Just didnt make sense watching 90mins of the same shite
 
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