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Spirit of 37 - display v Newcastle

Call me cynical, and I know I am but hear me out. This whole “I’m leaving SOT37” and we are sick and maybe will keep going etc. thing from Donald all seems very convenient considering the pressure and backlash they have faced from the farce of the moving the goalposts from this display and they’ve been accused of lining pockets so have started having to prove where money has went.

This next bit is a question and not an opinion. Does this show that the people questioning motives of the group could have had a point?

I don’t mind Donald from what I’ve seen on here, always seems to tell the truth and is quite up front and open, but this could really contribute to people’s already existing suspicions of the group.

😂😂😂
 

Call me cynical, and I know I am but hear me out. This whole “I’m leaving SOT37” and we are sick and maybe will keep going etc. thing from Donald all seems very convenient considering the pressure and backlash they have faced from the farce of the moving the goalposts from this display and they’ve been accused of lining pockets so have started having to prove where money has went.

This next bit is a question and not an opinion. Does this show that the people questioning motives of the group could have had a point?

I don’t mind Donald from what I’ve seen on here, always seems to tell the truth and is quite up front and open, but this could really contribute to people’s already existing suspicions of the group.
What a knob
 
Call me cynical, and I know I am but hear me out. This whole “I’m leaving SOT37” and we are sick and maybe will keep going etc. thing from Donald all seems very convenient considering the pressure and backlash they have faced from the farce of the moving the goalposts from this display and they’ve been accused of lining pockets so have started having to prove where money has went.

This next bit is a question and not an opinion. Does this show that the people questioning motives of the group could have had a point?

I don’t mind Donald from what I’ve seen on here, always seems to tell the truth and is quite up front and open, but this could really contribute to people’s already existing suspicions of the group.
No. Not remotely, questions can and should be asked, but they should be appropriate and fair. That question is neither.
 
Call me cynical, and I know I am but hear me out. This whole “I’m leaving SOT37” and we are sick and maybe will keep going etc. thing from Donald all seems very convenient considering the pressure and backlash they have faced from the farce of the moving the goalposts from this display and they’ve been accused of lining pockets so have started having to prove where money has went.

This next bit is a question and not an opinion. Does this show that the people questioning motives of the group could have had a point?

I don’t mind Donald from what I’ve seen on here, always seems to tell the truth and is quite up front and open, but this could really contribute to people’s already existing suspicions of the group.

Shut up man.
 
Call me cynical, and I know I am but hear me out. This whole “I’m leaving SOT37” and we are sick and maybe will keep going etc. thing from Donald all seems very convenient considering the pressure and backlash they have faced from the farce of the moving the goalposts from this display and they’ve been accused of lining pockets so have started having to prove where money has went.

This next bit is a question and not an opinion. Does this show that the people questioning motives of the group could have had a point?

I don’t mind Donald from what I’ve seen on here, always seems to tell the truth and is quite up front and open, but this could really contribute to people’s already existing suspicions of the group.
What suspicions? Some bitter, negative weasels from twitter who are negative about anything and everything? Who want a say on every flag led display but don't want to contribute with their time and or money?

It's always the same man, nobodies who add nothing to anything yet expect respect and want input, then when something happens they disagree with they go on like bairns and constantly criticise.
 
What suspicions? Some bitter, negative weasels from twitter who are negative about anything and everything? Who want a say on every flag led display but don't want to contribute with their time and or money?

It's always the same man, nobodies who add nothing to anything yet expect respect and want input, then when something happens they disagree with they go on like bairns and constantly criticise.
I agree with that, I’ve got nowt against Donald or any of the rest of SOT37 and do I think any of them have done owt dodgy? No not at all.

I am a cynical person when it comes to stuff like this as I have very real experience with not-for-profit organisations where there’s been people skimming money (not on this level, granted) and it’s the absolute worst feeling in the world and absolutely vile. This is why I even said it, albeit probably worded wrong and a bit aggressively. I don’t think this is the case with SOT37 though, only thing I think they have done wrong was keep changing the target amount which has roused certain people’s suspicions, especially when they’ve already accused them in the past.

Would be a massive shame if they did knock it on the head and you just know all the “bitter, negative, weasels” would be out in force.

I just want to put it on record that I have actually stuck up for them on Twitter with the aforementioned “bitter, negative, weasels” as well.
 
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Call me cynical, and I know I am but hear me out. This whole “I’m leaving SOT37” and we are sick and maybe will keep going etc. thing from Donald all seems very convenient considering the pressure and backlash they have faced from the farce of the moving the goalposts from this display and they’ve been accused of lining pockets so have started having to prove where money has went.

This next bit is a question and not an opinion. Does this show that the people questioning motives of the group could have had a point?

I don’t mind Donald from what I’ve seen on here, always seems to tell the truth and is quite up front and open, but this could really contribute to people’s already existing suspicions of the group.

Utterly bat shit mental, delete your account and nothing more will be said.
Tattie brain
 
I agree with that, I’ve got nowt against Donald or any of the rest of SOT37 and do I think any of them have done owt dodgy? No not at all.

I am a cynical person when it comes to stuff like this as I have very real experience with not-for-profit organisations where there’s been people skimming money (not on this level, granted) and it’s the absolute worst feeling in the world and absolutely vile. This is why I even said it, albeit probably worded wrong and a bit aggressively. I don’t think this is the case with SOT37 though, only thing I think they have done wrong was keep changing the target amount which has roused certain people’s suspicions, especially when they’ve already accused them in the past.

Would be a massive shame if they did knock it on the head and you just know all the “bitter, negative, weasels” would be out in force.

I just want to put it on record that I have actually stuck up for them on Twitter with the aforementioned “bitter, negative, weasels” as well.

It’s honestly hard to constantly answer the same question without coming down as condescending.

The more things you buy, the more they cost. We increased the cost to try and increase spending power. We didn’t communicate well enough clearly, but I didn’t think it would’ve needed explaining.
 
It’s honestly hard to constantly answer the same question without coming down as condescending.

The more things you buy, the more they cost. We increased the cost to try and increase spending power. We didn’t communicate well enough clearly, but I didn’t think it would’ve needed explaining.
Donald no need to explain,proper fans are grateful what you lads try to create.
 
It’s honestly hard to constantly answer the same question without coming down as condescending.

The more things you buy, the more they cost. We increased the cost to try and increase spending power. We didn’t communicate well enough clearly, but I didn’t think it would’ve needed explaining.

It did/doesn’t.

Yous said multiple times that there were varying cost options (and subsequently display options) up to 45k.

Fundraisers do it all the time for similar reasons.
 
It’s honestly hard to constantly answer the same question without coming down as condescending.

The more things you buy, the more they cost. We increased the cost to try and increase spending power. We didn’t communicate well enough clearly, but I didn’t think it would’ve needed explaining.
I get it. I could have worded it better in hindsight, I actually work with materials myself (completely different materials altogether) but I know how much they’ve increased in the last few years. 15 grand gets you now what 8 would have 5 years ago.
 
With the greatest respect.

This is a group who wilfully misunderstood the national stadiums fire safety regulations and refuses the importance of trust/financial transparency when asking the public for money.

Not sure they are ever listening.

I love the sentiment behind Sof37 but it desperately needs some competent people.
Another swipe at the group.

Just admit you don't like the people involved and fuck off the thread.
****.
 
For the Mags game I honestly think red squash balls and the glove idea can both be done along with people taking their own banners/flags. Cause maximum disruption.

Stewards can do sod all, most of them (especially the new lot) are useless. They have no actual power. The plod I'd imagine will have their hands full as it is. Need a few thousand of us at least and be ready to defend others if they try to take flags banners off people
 
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