The Hundred 2023

[Parkside]

Of course it is not a good idea and of course it’s not ideal, and would not dream of disagreeing in principle and of course you right we should not be promoting children to eat unhealthy

However sports teams have been sponsoring betting companies, fizzy drinks companies, snack companies, beer companies etc etc for years and not heard a dicky bird of compliant on here about them.

Now all of a sudden it’s a big important issue and gets mentioned just to find another angle to have a go

Aye and stop all the beer sales it’s a terrible example to be pissed around children

There was loud criticism in the media of the KP sponsorship from the outset,likewise there's been criticism of betting companies sponsorship. Pathetic comparison mentioning beer sponsorship in general sport. Point is that 16.4 is aimed specifically at a young audience.
Glad you agree on the undesirable elements of 16.4.
And a drunken element at cricket games  is a terrible example to youngsters-that's why family non-alcoholic areas exist.

 

[Voice of fair play]

There was loud criticism in the media of the KP sponsorship from the outset,likewise there's been criticism of betting companies sponsorship. Pathetic comparison mentioning beer sponsorship in general sport. Point is that 16.4 is aimed specifically at a young audience.
Glad you agree on the undesirable elements of 16.4.
And a drunken element at cricket games  is a terrible example to youngsters-that's why family non-alcoholic areas exist.

Yeah don’t disagree at all with your general points, in fact I agree with them very much

Just have a feeling if these companies were sponsoring blast teams or Durham you would not be mentioning it and you only making a big deal of it because they sponsor hundred teams.

Just my opinion of course

 

[Parkside]

Yeah don’t disagree at all with your general points, in fact I agree with them very much

Just have a feeling if these companies were sponsoring blast teams or Durham you would not be mentioning it and are only making a big deal of it because they sponsor hundred teams

Just my opinion of course

I can assure I'd be more vehement because Durham are my team. Certainly if it was at T20. Be wasteful for the sponsor at the red ball game where the audience are hardly likely to change their dietary habits of a lifetime.
I dislike The Hundred for the reasons I've outlined. They're important issues for youngsters.

 

[Voice of fair play]

I can assure I'd be more vehement because Durham are my team. Certainly if it was at T20. Be wasteful for the sponsor at the red ball game where the audience are hardly likely to change their dietary habits of a lifetime.
I dislike The Hundred for the reasons I've outlined. They're important issues for youngsters.

Fair enough not going to keep this going as on this particular point I think you dead right and a tournament aimed at children should certainly be more responsible in choices of sponsor

 

[Parkside]

Fair enough not going to keep this going as on this particular point I think you dead right and a tournament aimed at children should certainly be more responsible in choices of sponsor

Agree, I've enjoyed the debate. Hopefully the tedious issue will be put to bed and we'll have a sensible compromise which is nationwide next season. With a more appropriate sponsor.

 

[Voice of fair play]

Agree, I've enjoyed the debate. Hopefully the tedious issue will be put to bed and we'll have a sensible compromise which is nationwide next season. With a more appropriate sponsor.

Me too, I respect where you coming from genuinely want the best for cricket going forward we just fundamentally disagree on the best way to do that which is absolutely fine.

 

[PeteFTM]

I haven't seen much of Turner and Atkinson. Read a few articles about their rise to prominence, especially Atkinson overcoming his injury woes. Who do you think has what it takes to make the step up to the international stage? Any of them with proper 90mph pace?

Both mate, Atkinson has raw pace and a great action, he was hitting 90mph+ regularly, up to 94mph. Getting lots of zip as well, he looks the real deal.

John Turner is younger but Christ he looks fantastic, very accurate and absolutely unnerved by pressure. He’s South African born, so a relief that he’s picked us as his national team.

I like Tongue but I’d say both look better prospects. If Atkinson stays injury free, both have the talent to be Broad/Anderson level from what I’ve seen.

 

[Hetty]

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[Aidan11]

No Clarke.

 

[Bamber]

All the Rockets can do now is win at the Oval on monday and hope for the best. I’ll be there

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

No Clark again then

 

[PeteFTM]

Billings is a complete idiot, twice he’s brought Sowter on in the powerplay against big hitters.
Excellent comeback from Sowter.

Zampa just screams quality, so good.
Jason Roy proper character

 

[Hetty]

Sunday 20th August

Women 11am
Manchester Originals v Northern Supercharges
Emirates Old Trafford, Manchester

Men 2.30pm
Manchester Originals v Northern Supercharges
Emirates Old Trafford, Manchester


Women 2.30pm
Welsh Fire v London Spirit
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Men 6pm
Welsh Fire v London Spirit
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

 

[PeteFTM]

Sunday 20th August

Women 11am
Manchester Originals v Northern Supercharges
Emirates Old Trafford, Manchester

Men 2.30pm
Manchester Originals v Northern Supercharges
Emirates Old Trafford, Manchester


Women 2.30pm
Welsh Fire v London Spirit
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Men 6pm
Welsh Fire v London Spirit
Sophia Gardens, Cardiff

Big game for both northern teams. Both need a win really. Although a point wouldn’t be bad for either.

I think we’re all hoping for a Welsh Fire win the reduce the competition at the top.

 

[Fleagle]

The Blast makes money, both when it was a single tournament and now spread out over the season. With little to no backing from the ECB.

The Blast doesn’t make money in a meaningful sense that a spectator sport needs to. It shows an operating surplus over its on the day marginal costs. If you ignore minor details like the wage bill. But no county comes close to delivering a profit on its cricketing operations alone. No county comes close to covering its wage bill and all its other operating costs through its match operations. Surrey showed a profit last year if you include the test match revenue. Lancashire get close with the hotel and conference income. The rest are totally insolvent. Even with the Blast.

 

[brandon]

I remember when that debate happened many years ago you stated that Lancs with Stokes been from Cumbria had their eye on him before Durham stepped in.

But now he would be lost to the sport!!

Cricket was absolutely thriving massively in the North East area at club level when I was a kid and Durham was a minor county team at that that stage.

Sadly now with other modern day interests it’s shadow of what it once was at club level

I can’t believe how dedicated you are to this ridiculous cause that you’re prepared to tell bare faced lies in order to win an internet argument.

Ask yourself this - how many players from the North East represented England in the history of cricket pre-1992….

Then ask yourself how many have represented them since?

What do you think happened in 1992 that changed the landscape and increased the opportunity for NE cricketers MASSIVELY?

We clearly miles apart on this I don’t dispute you genuinely believe and support your view and passionately support it.

I passionately support mine.

How many 16.4 games have you been to?

I meant you could not have a school holiday tournament in that window with 18 teams

Why are you still telling bare faces lies? We HAVE had that before.

 

[PeteFTM]

The Blast doesn’t make money in a meaningful sense that a spectator sport needs to. It shows an operating surplus over its on the day marginal costs. If you ignore minor details like the wage bill. But no county comes close to delivering a profit on its cricketing operations alone. No county comes close to covering its wage bill and all its other operating costs through its match operations. Surrey showed a profit last year if you include the test match revenue. Lancashire get close with the hotel and conference income. The rest are totally insolvent. Even with the Blast.

Whenever you switch onto County Cricket, there’s barely anyone there.

They’re trying to revolutionise cricket with The Hundred, bring in a new audience, not just fill seats now but get them hooked so they’re there, with friends and family, in 10 years.

County red ball cricket will be a thing of the past in the coming years, it’s just not sustainable and the world has moved on from slow cricket/sports in general, people want quick entertainment and the ECB are trying to move with the times. Red ball cricket will be solely for major internationals before long.

 

[brandon]

I've never heard anyone say that

Me neither, but that poster is known to tell lies in order to slavishly promote the 16.4.

And if they is less people watching it’s because rather than embracing change for the longevity of the game, people just want to twist and twist because their own team been left out of the party.

Yeah, who’d have thought thousands of people would want to ‘twist and twist’ at the thought that their beloved club might wither and die because FTECB will it to happen. Imagine if the FA decided that the Championship was to suddenly become a 10 team league and the other 14 clubs (including SAFC) were forced to give up all their best players for zero financial reward and made to play (with what’s left) in a quasi-reserve league.

I have read on here several times during the Ashes

You’ll be able to provide quotes then, won’t you….?

The Blast doesn’t make money in a meaningful sense that a spectator sport needs to. It shows an operating surplus over its on the day marginal costs. If you ignore minor details like the wage bill.

Yes, you can ignore the wage bill, because ‘The Blast’ doesn’t pay the players wagers…. The 16.4 does though.

Whenever you switch onto County Cricket, there’s barely anyone there.

The Blast attendances were (and generally have always been) fantastic, so that is a lie.

County red ball cricket will be a thing of the past in the coming years, it’s just not sustainable and the world has moved on from slow cricket/sports in general, people want quick entertainment and the ECB are trying to move with the times. Red ball cricket will be solely for major internationals before long.

You do realise folk have been saying that for over a hundred years

 

[PeteFTM]

You do realise folk have been saying that for over a hundred years

It’s happening unfortunately mate, barelt anyone has the time or attention span for county red ball cricket anymore, that’s why attendances are worse than National League Football. Even 50 over county cricket is poorly attended.

Short format cricket is the future.

 

[brandon]

It’s happening unfortunately mate, barelt anyone has the time or attention span for county red ball cricket anymore, that’s why attendances are worse than National League Football.

You don’t go, do you?

Even 50 over county cricket is poorly attended.

Why do you think that is?