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3rd test - Headingley


Feel as though they have asked bairstow to do too much after his lay off in being a front line batsman and keeper.

Not sure why they are so resistant to foakes playing and having bairstow play as a batsman…..foakes supporting the likes of stokes as he cuts loose and useful runs with the tail could be a real positive.

They might not want it like that long term but it might have helped bairstow after his injury
 
Tell you what no-one has mentioned is the absence of Jack Leach, he was maligned but he's the best spinner in England and has been for a few years. Not suggesting he would have made a huge difference but you lose so many overs and control.
 
Mr Redknapp said:
Tell you what no-one has mentioned is the absence of Jack Leach, he was maligned but he's the best spinner in England and has been for a few years. Not suggesting he would have made a huge difference but you lose so many overs and control.
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A certain poster whose banned has repeatedly tbf
 
Voice of fair play said:
Bairstow batted brilliantly in the first innings of the first test match
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Aye and there’s the rub. Bairstow batted brilliantly the one time he batted before he kept. He’s been a bag of shite the three times he’s batted after he’s kept.

And he has a massive track record for it. According to Andy Z’s stat at some point this series he is 20 worse batting 2nd 3rd or 4th innings as a keeper than he is batting when he has not, or not yet, kept. That’s where the tactic fails. It’s not that it weakens the keeping. It’s that it weakens the BATTING too. For Bairstow the keeper plus Lawrence the bat to merely break even over Foakes the keeper plus Bairstow the bat, Lawrence needs to give you a plus 20 to balance that minus 20. And he’s not. He’s not even a plus anything. He’s another minus three.
essex boy said:
Too care free batting at 6, with added responsibility, he might apply himself more like he did yesterday.
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He didn’t apply himself more though did he, if by that you mean “bat like an old fashioned test cricketer”. He did precisely the opposite. The moment Bairstow was out he went full on aggression. Whether he did it because, as he claimed afterwards, the match situation demanded it or because he was fuming I’m not sure. But he went from the eighties to his hundred in about four minutes. That’s not what I’d call calm and conventional.

This is the problem England face. Everyone is fine for them to bat agressively but only when it works. We were fine getting to 180-1 but then we were twats for not stopping doing it. Stokes was great flaying the ball to all parts. Until he got out. Cricket doesn’t always work like that though.
 
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Fleagle said:
Aye and there’s the rub. Bairstow batted brilliantly the one time he batted before he kept. He’s been a bag of shite the three times he’s batted after he’s kept.

And he has a massive track record for it. According to Andy Z’s stat at some point this series he is 20 worse batting 2nd 3rd or 4th innings as a keeper than he is batting when he has not, or not yet, kept. That’s where the tactic fails. It’s not that it weakens the keeping. It’s that it weakens the BATTING too. For Bairstow the keeper plus Lawrence the bat to merely break even over Foakes the keeper plus Bairstow the bat, Lawrence needs to give you a plus 20 to balance that minus 20. And he’s not. He’s not even a plus anything. He’s another minus three.

He didn’t apply himself more though did he, if by that you mean “bat like an old fashioned test cricketer”. He did precisely the opposite. The moment Bairstow was out he went full on aggression. Whether he did it because, as he claimed afterwards, the match situation demanded it or because he was fuming I’m not sure. But he went from the eighties to his hundred in about four minutes. That’s not what I’d call calm and conventional.

This is the problem England face. Everyone is fine for them to bat agressively but only when it works. We were fine getting to 180-1 but then we were twats for not stopping doing it. Stokes was great flaying the ball to all parts. Until he got out. Cricket doesn’t always work like that though.
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He applied himself as he got himself in, then accelerated when the game situation dictated. He normally plays a few nice shots then gets out

I have heard a lot about Stokes being a "great" player this week. Great players ala Kallis, Ponting et al churned out runs for fun regularly irrespective if it was a high pressure test match or low key test match.

Looking forward to watching Stokes cash in on his good form this week and score another 100
Chris Woakes for Josh Tongue has to be a joke. Our batters are pissing their wickets away for fun so we play one less batsman if media is to be believed

This has 5-0 written all over it. Question is will Baz or Stokes carry the can with their dismissal
 
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essex boy said:
He applied himself as he got himself in, then accelerated when the game situation dictated. He normally plays a few nice shots then gets out

I have heard a lot about Stokes being a "great" player this week. Great players ala Kallis, Ponting et al churned out runs for fun regularly irrespective if it was a high pressure test match or low key test match.

Looking forward to watching Stokes cash in on his good form this week and score another 100
Chris Woakes for Josh Tongue has to be a joke. Our batters are pissing their wickets away for fun so we play one less batsman if media is to be believed

This has 5-0 written all over it. Question is will Baz or Stokes carry the can with their dismissal
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Each test match has been close and each test match could have gone either way as both teams on top in certain times in both matches.

So don’t understand based of that why the conclusion is ‘ it has 5 0 written all over it’

Normally for statements like that you would have expected one team to have totally dominated the other which has not been the case
 
I have tickets for monday. If it gets that far....looks like it will rain anyway.

Unusual...but not surprising....that they sell day 5 tickets at full price so far in advance. I guess they can so they have
 
hudson88 said:
Robinson fortunate IMO
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Really really fortunate . Aussies would have been fearful of woakes, broad, wood and tongue as a bowling attack. 77mph balls just won't cut it. Before this Ashes series I really rated Robinson, have no idea what's happened to the lad but he won't be in the England fold for much longer if he bowls like that for the next 3 tests
 
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