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Put a flat earthier into space

I am pleased to see so many people agree with me that the earth is round. More that that its round and flat like a disc with the ice wall as the barrier to keep the seas in. To top if off we have a molten like Dome covering us which is called the Firmament. Now don't start shouting at me, ask any pilot if its flat.
 

Banter King said:
I am pleased to see so many people agree with me that the earth is round. More that that its round and flat like a disc with the ice wall as the barrier to keep the seas in. To top if off we have a molten like Dome covering us which is called the Firmament. Now don't start shouting at me, ask any pilot if its flat.
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You really haven't read the thread have you?
 
Harry Angstrom said:
This says far more about the human brain than it does about the earth. It says a lot about the shape the world is in that there are people dressing themselves in the morning believing the world is flat.
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It does, and it is now the paranoia and self-doubt unfolds (for all conspiracy theorists, not particularly thinking about the one who dominated this thread) which is fascinating. When it comes to the shape of our world and where we can sit in astronomy, some of the concepts are difficult and strange to get your head around. Like, why can't I feel the world spinning? Why don't buildings appear to lean apart? Unless you can get your head around how big the earth is, how slow it is spinning (even though it goes round in a day) then I can see how it is mind blowing. That is before you start to think about tidal locking of the moon etc. As demonstrated in this thread, some of it can be explained with simple GCSE level maths, but really that is the sort of maths the top sets will be doing. My school had four sets, and I don't think the bottom set (the green group) ever really got onto algebra or trigonometry. Studies have shown that most conspiracy theorists performed poorly at school and just will not have encountered these basics of geometry.

So you have someone of lower IQ, usually in a menial job frustrated at the lack of understanding and lack of control of their lives, wanting to know more and looking with envy at educated researchers, professors working in the field or even just people who are intelligent working elsewhere but perhaps with an education background or just general interest in it. These people are doing for fun which the CT just can't ever hope to manage. It is like us watching Diallo with the ball. I've got no chance of doing that. Then YouTube or something else comes along and offers childlike explanations with the bold statement that everything we are taught is a lie. Suddenly the tables turn. Educated ones are the fools, and those who have "done their own research" are the ones in the know. They have the power, they are in control and in their minds, they are the super hero.

Then they try to explain something, loving the attention and the feeling that others are looking at them saying "oh teach me grand guru" (actually phrase is 'what the fuck, err how?'). They hit a stumbling block and realise another branch of physics, maths, biology etc says it is bollocks. No worries, if you have dismissed some of science as a lie, just dismiss that, make something up and replace another branch of science. Down and down the rabbit hole they go until they end up in a complete fantasy universe/world/snow dome/pancake.

Fascinating but desperately sad and worrying too.
fyl2u said:
You really haven't read the thread have you?
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BanterKing feels a bit BanterLightweight
 
DaveH said:
It does, and it is now the paranoia and self-doubt unfolds (for all conspiracy theorists, not particularly thinking about the one who dominated this thread) which is fascinating. When it comes to the shape of our world and where we can sit in astronomy, some of the concepts are difficult and strange to get your head around. Like, why can't I feel the world spinning? Why don't buildings appear to lean apart? Unless you can get your head around how big the earth is, how slow it is spinning (even though it goes round in a day) then I can see how it is mind blowing. That is before you start to think about tidal locking of the moon etc. As demonstrated in this thread, some of it can be explained with simple GCSE level maths, but really that is the sort of maths the top sets will be doing. My school had four sets, and I don't think the bottom set (the green group) ever really got onto algebra or trigonometry. Studies have shown that most conspiracy theorists performed poorly at school and just will not have encountered these basics of geometry.

So you have someone of lower IQ, usually in a menial job frustrated at the lack of understanding and lack of control of their lives, wanting to know more and looking with envy at educated researchers, professors working in the field or even just people who are intelligent working elsewhere but perhaps with an education background or just general interest in it. These people are doing for fun which the CT just can't ever hope to manage. It is like us watching Diallo with the ball. I've got no chance of doing that. Then YouTube or something else comes along and offers childlike explanations with the bold statement that everything we are taught is a lie. Suddenly the tables turn. Educated ones are the fools, and those who have "done their own research" are the ones in the know. They have the power, they are in control and in their minds, they are the super hero.

Then they try to explain something, loving the attention and the feeling that others are looking at them saying "oh teach me grand guru" (actually phrase is 'what the fuck, err how?'). They hit a stumbling block and realise another branch of physics, maths, biology etc says it is bollocks. No worries, if you have dismissed some of science as a lie, just dismiss that, make something up and replace another branch of science. Down and down the rabbit hole they go until they end up in a complete fantasy universe/world/snow dome/pancake.

Fascinating but desperately sad and worrying too.

BanterKing feels a bit BanterLightweight
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It is fascinating. There does seem to be a new medieval mindset. There be witches etc
 
Harry Angstrom said:
It is fascinating. There does seem to be a new medieval mindset. There be witches etc
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I think it has always been there, but the internet has given them a platform to air their views to many so now they are visible. 20 years ago it would have been the bloke alone in the corner of the pub, gibbering quietly into a pint, trying to make it last. I generally mix with pretty intelligent people and I've never met anyone so deep into conspiracy theorists as one or two on this thread. If it was not for them, there would have been the original post, a few people would have made observations about conspiracy theorists and it would have fallen away after a couple of page. 888 pages on, most of it has been giving one person attention they probably never get in real life, while giving the rest of us insight into the paranoid and deluded.
 
DaveH said:
I think it has always been there, but the internet has given them a platform to air their views to many so now they are visible. 20 years ago it would have been the bloke alone in the corner of the pub, gibbering quietly into a pint, trying to make it last. I generally mix with pretty intelligent people and I've never met anyone so deep into conspiracy theorists as one or two on this thread. If it was not for them, there would have been the original post, a few people would have made observations about conspiracy theorists and it would have fallen away after a couple of page. 888 pages on, most of it has been giving one person attention they probably never get in real life, while giving the rest of us insight into the paranoid and deluded.
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Yes. The internet has allowed a them to connect and multiply!

What is sad is that there has never been a better time to enquire into these things as the answers are available free at the touch of a button or in a nicely packaged paperback that can be sent to your door by Jeff Bezos.

I find the standard of debate and discourse poor too. I get called a contrarian when I'm just questioning someone's standpoint that they have published on here. Questioning a statement to some means that you are against everything they stand for. It is fun and fills in some down time at work.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
It is fascinating. There does seem to be a new medieval mindset. There be witches etc
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I think it's to do with complete mistrust in authority of any kind. As individuals we can't go into space to check the shape of the planet so obviously we have to rely on what we are told. But some people are so mistrusting they refuse to believe anything they can't personally check for themselves.
The whole argument of the planet not being round falls to bits when you ask what would anybody gain by lying about it? Why hasn't anyone who has been into space blabbed the truth? This is the maddest thread I've ever read on here or anywhere else come to think about it. Kept going by one person who must be on a windup. The best internet wum ever.
 
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zinedine said:
I think it's to do with complete mistrust in authority of any kind. As individuals we can't go into space to check the shape of the planet so obviously we have to rely on what we are told. But some people are so mistrusting they refuse to believe anything they can't personally check for themselves.
The whole argument of the planet not being round falls to bits when you ask what would anybody gain by lying about it? Why hasn't anyone who has been into space blabbed the truth? This is the maddest thread I've ever read on here or anywhere else come to think about it. Kept going by one person who must be on a windup. The best internet wum ever.
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I assumed it was after I engaged him once. :lol:
 
zinedine said:
I think it's to do with complete mistrust in authority of any kind. As individuals we can't go into space to check the shape of the planet so obviously we have to rely on what we are told. But some people are so mistrusting they refuse to believe anything they can't personally check for themselves.
The whole argument of the planet not being round falls to bits when you ask what would anybody gain by lying about it? Why hasn't anyone who has been into space blabbed the truth? This is the maddest thread I've ever read on here or anywhere else come to think about it. Kept going by one person who must be on a windup. The best internet wum ever.
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Except going into space and checking it yourself is not the only way you can know we live on a spinning globe. However to prove it with your feet on the ground you need to make careful observations and understand geometry. Far easier to keep believing the lie and that you are in control than it is understanding the maths. That is why we often have geometry dismissed and maths described as 'magical maths'.

I wish I had kept a quote book of this thread. If I had "not all right angles are equal", would likely be at the top.
 
DaveH said:
Except going into space and checking it yourself is not the only way you can know we live on a spinning globe. However to prove it with your feet on the ground you need to make careful observations and understand geometry. Far easier to keep believing the lie and that you are in control than it is understanding the maths. That is why we often have geometry dismissed and maths described as 'magical maths'.

I wish I had kept a quote book of this thread. If I had "not all right angles are equal", would likely be at the top.
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The only way you'll get an ardent flat earther to believe the earth is round, is to take them up there and show them. This thread proves that.They aren't going to believe anything else. Thinking about it they probably wouldn't even believe it then.
 
DaveH said:
Except going into space and checking it yourself is not the only way you can know we live on a spinning globe. However to prove it with your feet on the ground you need to make careful observations and understand geometry. Far easier to keep believing the lie and that you are in control than it is understanding the maths. That is why we often have geometry dismissed and maths described as 'magical maths'.

I wish I had kept a quote book of this thread. If I had "not all right angles are equal", would likely be at the top.
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" no push just pull too and no such thing as a vacuum"

So many really, absolute imbecile but entertaining
 
southstander said:
One for all the flat eathers to enjoy.

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Likely just claim CGI and that the few people involved in this are liars.

It is easy being a conspiracy theorist. You have already decided to sound like a moron so anything further doesn’t make it any worse. Try it for any argument. That David Attenborough had elephants on his show. CGI, no such thing as elephants. What you say you saw one on holiday or the zoo? Your brain can be fooled. You have spent your life being schooled that elephants exist so your brain just made you think you saw an elephant. Don’t worry, I used to think the same as you, until my superior brain saw past the lies. You probably saw a cow. Etc etc.

Even works for cheese sandwiches. Pick anything in the world, and use bloody stupid arguments to deny it and it works. How can you convince someone so determined not to believe in elephants that they exist? You just can’t. Smash their face into the side of an elephant perhaps, but doesn’t work over the internet.
 
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