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Which mistakes can we learn from and improve for the 2nd test?

PeteFTM

Winger
Number 1 for me: We need to select a fit, top level wicket keeper.

It’s all well and good making brave declaration decisions, brave decisions need to be made with the team selection, regardless of who’s feelings get hurt.
 

1. When the going is good, cash in properly. Much has been made of the declaration but that was only a decision to be made because we were 8 down approaching the end of the day. We shouldn’t have been 8 down on that surface in those conditions.

2. Pick properly fit players. Stokes plays with the injury because he’s captain and has more than one string to his bow. Can’t have him half injured, an undercooked spinner and two bowlers coming back from injury without practice.

3. Try, if at all possible, to get Foakes behind the stumps particularly if we’re persisting with a frontline spinner. His ability adds a different dimension to our seam bowlers if it flattens out as well as he is able to competently stand up to them as well.

That’s what I’d like to see
 
It was largely thanks to Broad that we were even in with a chance of winning. Anderson was incredibly disappointing by his standards. Robinson for all his talk of being a “gym bunny” was struggling to hit 80mph at times which was embarrassing. It was like watching the Robinson from the last Ashes tour. His figures for this Test burnished by knocking over a few tail-enders.

I’m not sure what will happen with Mo for the rest of the series.

Next Test one of Robinson or Anderson should miss out and Wood needs to come in.
 
- Be positive/aggressive, not reckless.
- Pick a proper WK.
- We need more variety on flat wickets. Wood should replace Robinson or Anderson next test.
- Not sure bringing back Mo is the answer.
 
I’m not sure of the policy of having these flat pitches. I can see how they don’t want green seamers because it benefits their attack as much as ours and it makes scoring runs quickly much more difficult which is what we are about. However pitches with a little bit more in them or it’s giving the likes of Jimmy and Robinson nothing to work with.
 
It was largely thanks to Broad that we were even in with a chance of winning. Anderson was incredibly disappointing by his standards. Robinson for all his talk of being a “gym bunny” was struggling to hit 80mph at times which was embarrassing. It was like watching the Robinson from the last Ashes tour. His figures for this Test burnished by knocking over a few tail-enders.

I’m not sure what will happen with Mo for the rest of the series.

Next Test one of Robinson or Anderson should miss out and Wood needs to come in.

Thought Robinson bowled ok on a dead pitch. Jimmy is the third best bowler in the world on the rankings or something and dropping him would be brave - he’s far better when he’s got a game under his belt. Rest him and he’s undercooked again for Headingley.
 
I’m not sure of the policy of having these flat pitches. I can see how they don’t want green seamers because it benefits their attack as much as ours and it makes scoring runs quickly much more difficult which is what we are about. However pitches with a little bit more in them or it’s giving the likes of Jimmy and Robinson nothing to work with.

Particularly when we don’t have a genuinely top quality attacking frontline spinner available. When fit, Leach is a competent test bowler but would find the going tough on those pitches. Ali is so out of practice and obviously his finger has demonstrated that. If we had Archer, Wood and Stone all fit and firing missiles then the flatties would be a very clever tactic.

Mind we’ll get what we’re given at Lords. They don’t take any instruction from the England set up on what to prepare.
 
- Be positive/aggressive, not reckless.
- Pick a proper WK.
- We need more variety on flat wickets. Wood should replace Robinson or Anderson next test.
- Not sure bringing back Mo is the answer.
I like line one. Everyone wants them to be positive/aggressive but when they get out it’s reckless.
I agree with the rest although Bairstow for me prior to his injury was a test match quality wicketkeeper. I’ve never seen him put in a performance remotely like that and wonder if his movement is hampered by his injury. If it is he needs to be replaced.
 
- Be positive/aggressive, not reckless.
- Pick a proper WK.
- We need more variety on flat wickets. Wood should replace Robinson or Anderson next test.
- Not sure bringing back Mo is the answer.
I think that sums things up nicely to be honest.

It’ll be interesting to see who comes in for Mo.
 
I like line one. Everyone wants them to be positive/aggressive but when they get out it’s reckless.
I agree with the rest although Bairstow for me prior to his injury was a test match quality wicketkeeper. I’ve never seen him put in a performance remotely like that and wonder if his movement is hampered by his injury. If it is he needs to be replaced.

The difference between positive and reckless is continuing with what is working well for players and not risking that success for something altogether different.

Root and Bairstow’s dismissals where they ran down the track and heaved were reckless and unnecessary. They’d played beautifully from the crease and used their feet in a more classical style which was reaping huge rewards with them totally set at the crease. Hammering home their advantage at that stage and continuing to play positively would have served them and England well. Duckett wafting his bat without real intent is also reckless and not positive.

That type of thing for me
 
Particularly when we don’t have a genuinely top quality attacking frontline spinner available. When fit, Leach is a competent test bowler but would find the going tough on those pitches. Ali is so out of practice and obviously his finger has demonstrated that. If we had Archer, Wood and Stone all fit and firing missiles then the flatties would be a very clever tactic.

Mind we’ll get what we’re given at Lords. They don’t take any instruction from the England set up on what to prepare
The difference between positive and reckless is continuing with what is working well for players and not risking that success for something altogether different.

Root and Bairstow’s dismissals where they ran down the track and heaved were reckless and unnecessary. They’d played beautifully from the crease and used their feet in a more classical style which was reaping huge rewards with them totally set at the crease. Hammering home their advantage at that stage and continuing to play positively would have served them and England well. Duckett wafting his bat without real intent is also reckless and not positive.

That type of thing for me
Duckett is just doing what has got him massive runs so far he isn’t doing anything differently having only left 8 balls since his return to the side. I agree tho if the Aussies know he’s going to play at it they will continue to put it out there.
 
From what I read on the 1st test thread it would be to drop one or both of the openers, plus Bairstow, Moeen, possibly Anderson, and bring in Foakes & Wood.
 
Pile as many runs up as you can in your first innings. Better to have them on the board and in the bag.

Remember you're playing the Aussies who are no mugs and won't let daft distractions get to them.
 
I'd like to see Foakes in, not instead of Bairstow, i'd bring him in for Ali. Extra batter, Root to take the main spin role, think neither are great, however think Root is just as capable, and with the finger injury Ali has it would be a safer decision. This strengthens the batting line up too, and now you have the best WK behind the stumps. Would also bring Wood in, but who for, a total toss up, probably for Robinson if it was up to me.
 
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