70s traveller
Striker
Well, I totally blame LMc for having us in that position: his players, his selections, his instruction had made us unable to score & not concede. The example you give suns it up nicely.
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What was your expectations when McMenemy first took charge?
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Well, I totally blame LMc for having us in that position: his players, his selections, his instruction had made us unable to score & not concede. The example you give suns it up nicely.
Pick Nickering
Goalkeeper
That goalie seamus mcdoughnut ! Threads like this bring all the painful memories back.
Qwerty
Striker
Shearer and the fat Spanish waiter weren't responsible for the mags 2 relegations using that metric.
HeroHurley
Winger
Bollocks. The season before was showing exactly what was going on.
From his autobiography
“I will be eternally sorry that I played a part in that surrender. I am judged as a manager by what happens on the pitch and that was unacceptable at Sunderland.”
Qwerty
Striker
He was shit I agree however there was enough games for us to stay up.
That's not opinion that is fact.
HeroHurley
Winger
The damage was done. Despite his '73 heroics, not even Stokoe could have produced a miracle of that size.
It worked at Southampton because he brought in Keegan, Shilton and Ball, top class players who actually wanted to be there. The players he bought up here (Burley, Swindlehurst, Kennedy) was did they really want to be here? Let's remember that Mac was the highest paid manager in the country when he was here. Man Utd offered him the job before Big Ron got it. They must have be laughing there arses off.
70s traveller
Striker
Nailed it (for some anyway)
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Guest
Extremely high. We were going to win the league. We were even referenced on the BBC Sitcom Brush Strokes as being the team that would go places.
Qwerty
Striker
McMenemy was shite but there was still time to stay up. We even a 2nd chance of the play offs. Every other season 3rd bottom meant automatic relegation.
Surrendering a 2-0 lead in the last game v Barnsley was criminal.
There was a total blackout of TV coverage up to Christmas with a wrangle between the League and BBC and ITV.
Stortford
Winger
Think Proctors penalty miss at 2-1 up is more to blame than Stokoe for the defeat v Barnsley, did exactly the same in the 2nd leg v Gillingham, again when we were 2-1 up
HeroHurley
Winger
It was done before then man. Like many have said Proctor's miss was the end.
peasmarshmakem
Winger
He was the most well paid across all leagues
Qwerty
Striker
It wasn't though. We were shite but still not in a relegation place.
I understand why people don't apportion any blame to Stokoe the mags do the same in not blaming Shearer or Benitez for their last 2 relegations.
bobpc30
Striker
How would he have made money our if knocking down the roker end?
njmackem
Striker
I was a young fan, who shed his first football team at Wembley in 1985, and then again when we got relegated. Remember all the hope when he was announced and the bollocks about being "On Our Way Back with Big Mac" he was as we now know a disaster... By the time he went he had become the first football person I hated (although not the last).
Nil desperandum
Striker
Instead of coverting us into a well drilled squad of Coldstream guards he made us look like ferkin Dad's Army. Right up there with Moyes
