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What was your expectations when McMenemy first took charge?

Qwerty said:
In the last game of the regular season we were 2-0 up and lost it 3-2. This put us 3rd from bottom, even then we had a 2nd bite of the cherry with the play offs.
Totally blaming McMenemy is like the mags totally blaming Mcclaren
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Well, I totally blame LMc for having us in that position: his players, his selections, his instruction had made us unable to score & not concede. The example you give suns it up nicely.
 

70s traveller said:
Well, I totally blame LMc for having us in that position: his players, his selections, his instruction had made us unable to score & not concede. The example you give suns it up nicely.
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Shearer and the fat Spanish waiter weren't responsible for the mags 2 relegations using that metric.
 
Qwerty said:
McMenemy didn't actually relegate us. Stokoe had plenty games to keep us up.
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Bollocks. The season before was showing exactly what was going on.

From his autobiography

“I will be eternally sorry that I played a part in that surrender. I am judged as a manager by what happens on the pitch and that was unacceptable at Sunderland.”
 
HeroHurley said:
Bollocks. The season before was showing exactly what was going on.

From his autobiography

“I will be eternally sorry that I played a part in that surrender. I am judged as a manager by what happens on the pitch and that was unacceptable at Sunderland.”
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He was shit I agree however there was enough games for us to stay up.
That's not opinion that is fact.
 
Qwerty said:
He was shit I agree however there was enough games for us to stay up.
That's not opinion that is fact.
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The damage was done. Despite his '73 heroics, not even Stokoe could have produced a miracle of that size.

It worked at Southampton because he brought in Keegan, Shilton and Ball, top class players who actually wanted to be there. The players he bought up here (Burley, Swindlehurst, Kennedy) was did they really want to be here? Let's remember that Mac was the highest paid manager in the country when he was here. Man Utd offered him the job before Big Ron got it. They must have be laughing there arses off.
 
HeroHurley said:
Bollocks. The season before was showing exactly what was going on.

From his autobiography

“I will be eternally sorry that I played a part in that surrender. I am judged as a manager by what happens on the pitch and that was unacceptable at Sunderland.”
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Nailed it (for some anyway)
 
Extremely high. We were going to win the league. We were even referenced on the BBC Sitcom Brush Strokes as being the team that would go places.
 
Mine were sky high, I went to RP to cheer his arrival, mam sent my brother who was working on one of those US summer camps a telegram to say he was the new manager.

Blackburn at home and then long trips to Pompey and Palace sobered me up a bit 🙄 😭
 
HeroHurley said:
The damage was done. Despite his '73 heroics, not even Stokoe could have produced a miracle of that size.

It worked at Southampton because he brought in Keegan, Shilton and Ball, top class players who actually wanted to be there. The players he bought up here (Burley, Swindlehurst, Kennedy) was did they really want to be here? Let's remember that Mac was the highest paid manager in the country when he was here. Man Utd offered him the job before Big Ron got it. They must have be laughing there arses off.
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McMenemy was shite but there was still time to stay up. We even a 2nd chance of the play offs. Every other season 3rd bottom meant automatic relegation.
Surrendering a 2-0 lead in the last game v Barnsley was criminal.
 
Qwerty said:
McMenemy was shite but there was still time to stay up. We even a 2nd chance of the play offs. Every other season 3rd bottom meant automatic relegation.
Surrendering a 2-0 lead in the last game v Barnsley was criminal.
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Think Proctors penalty miss at 2-1 up is more to blame than Stokoe for the defeat v Barnsley, did exactly the same in the 2nd leg v Gillingham, again when we were 2-1 up
 
Qwerty said:
McMenemy was shite but there was still time to stay up. We even a 2nd chance of the play offs. Every other season 3rd bottom meant automatic relegation.
Surrendering a 2-0 lead in the last game v Barnsley was criminal.
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It was done before then man. Like many have said Proctor's miss was the end.
 
HeroHurley said:
It was done before then man. Like many have said Proctor's miss was the end.
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It wasn't though. We were shite but still not in a relegation place.
I understand why people don't apportion any blame to Stokoe the mags do the same in not blaming Shearer or Benitez for their last 2 relegations.
 
DisillusionedOldGit said:
Or so we thought . I was ecstatic. I thought it was proof that we'd never be small -time again . I believed that lying bastard Cowie when he said he'd provide a £7,000,000 transfer kitty . It was much nearer £7 . We've never recovered from Cowies tenure . The deluded gobshite's proud boast was that the team may have let us down but he would always be proud of the ground improvements . Did he mean knocking down the Roker end ? I wonder how much he made out of that .
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How would he have made money our if knocking down the roker end?
 
safcrob said:
Were they high or low?
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I was a young fan, who shed his first football team at Wembley in 1985, and then again when we got relegated. Remember all the hope when he was announced and the bollocks about being "On Our Way Back with Big Mac" he was as we now know a disaster... By the time he went he had become the first football person I hated (although not the last).
 
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