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We’ll sing what we want


DufraisFTM said:
Why do you think the player himself has put a video out asking for it to be stopped? Because it’s shit? We’ve had plenty of shit songs, never a video asking them to be stopped.
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There are some f***ing idiots on here like.. hence the sing what we want shite.. pathetic
 
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Skylon said:
How's it a good song if the lyrics are crap and inappropriate?
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Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.
dangermows said:
Like the player, nee one had a clue what was being sang. Its not its really obvious when its being sang in the stands until its pointed out. And it's only recently came to people's attention through social media.

It's being sang for him because he is black. No other reason. Simple as that.
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The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.
Sidewinder2 said:
They try to let the club deal with it first, just as they did with Spurs with the y** army chant, they weren’t deducted points etc.

Maybe they should have been.
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But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?
Grimes said:
It probably will lead to all that if you keep singing it
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What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
 
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Sallycinamon said:
Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.

The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.

But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?

What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
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What was the original?
 
Sallycinamon said:
Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.

The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.

But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?

What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
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Thick ^
Skylon said:
What was the original?
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He is numb.
Sallycinamon said:
Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.

The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.

But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?

What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
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Honestly mate, you are thick as shite.
 
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Sallycinamon said:
Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.

The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.

But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?

What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
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You keep on arguing it out that it’s not racist mate
 
halfpast3 said:
You keep on arguing it out that it’s not racist mate
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I don’t think it is. Fine that some think it is but I disagree, respectfully I might add.

Like I said, if it was racist do you not think the authorities would be all over it - the club and the fans?
 
Sallycinamon said:
I don’t think it is. Fine that some think it is but I disagree, respectfully I might add.

Like I said, if it was racist do you not think the authorities would be all over it - the club and the fans?
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What authorities? I think there has to be a complaint to get the police involved. Maybe people are hoping it fizzles out before a complaint is made
 
Sallycinamon said:
I don’t think it is. Fine that some think it is but I disagree, respectfully I might add.

Like I said, if it was racist do you not think the authorities would be all over it - the club and the fans?
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Why do you think the fans are singing a song about a black man having a large penis? Answer honestly

The club have now made a start on it as it’s clearly a problem
 
Sallycinamon said:
I don’t think it is. Fine that some think it is but I disagree, respectfully I might add.

Like I said, if it was racist do you not think the authorities would be all over it - the club and the fans?
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It is definitely racist, but not really "hate speech" as such.
 
Skylon said:
What authorities? I think there has to be a complaint to get the police involved. Maybe people are hoping it fizzles out before a complaint is made
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The FA and EFL are both capable of sanctioning the club and fans and have acted in the past. The PFA and Kick It Out haven’t got the authority but are both swift enough to highlight cases and work with the authorities to bring cases to resolution.

It appears nobody has acted in the two months since the lyrics became evident.
 
Sallycinamon said:
The FA and EFL are both capable of sanctioning the club and fans and have acted in the past. The PFA and Kick It Out haven’t got the authority but are both swift enough to highlight cases and work with the authorities to bring cases to resolution.

It appears nobody has acted in the two months since the lyrics became evident.
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I suppose its ambiguous enough for the f.a not to open that can of worms. I mean, look what John Terry got away with. It's definitely racist though.
 
Sallycinamon said:
The FA and EFL are both capable of sanctioning the club and fans and have acted in the past. The PFA and Kick It Out haven’t got the authority but are both swift enough to highlight cases and work with the authorities to bring cases to resolution.

It appears nobody has acted in the two months since the lyrics became evident.
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There were people at the match on Saturday who were not aware of the words. Just because the words were evident to you doesn’t mean they weren’t evident to everyone. The club/player have asked people to stop singing it. I’m not aware of any instance in which a club has asked their fans to stop singing a song before because it’s shit. It is a song based on racial stereotypes, that much is not open for debate.
 
Sallycinamon said:
It’s a good song, but the lyrics are crap and inappropriate. Personally don’t think it’s racist.

Some people do however and I would ask them, if it is racist how come nothing has been done about it before now? By that I mean charges brought against the club, sanctions, fines, police investigations, etc. Given the FA’s stance over the last couple of years regarding actual racism in football (Bulgaria and Hungary away, cyber racism after euros) you’d have thought they’d be all over this if they deemed it racist.
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Well thankfully Diallo and the club have asked for us to stop singing it before we do face any punishment from the FA.
Sallycinamon said:
Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.

The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.

But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?

What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
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The club have dealt with it. They put out a video with Diallo asking fans not to sing it.

Take as people being educated on what is classed as being racism.
 
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Sallycinamon said:
Because the original was a good song. Sunderland’s version, with different lyrics, is embarrassing.

The lyrics were known two months ago, they were all over social media. The authorities scour social media for racist, sexist, hate crime. There’s no doubt whatsoever they’ll have seen and heard what was being sang. Very naive to think otherwise.

But the club haven’t dealt with it, which goes back to the original point. If it’s racist why hasn’t it been dealt with?

What are they waiting for? Perhaps they don’t see it as bad as people on here are making out.
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It isn't a hate crime, nobody is claiming the people singing it are doing so to abuse Diallo. It isn't in anyone's interests to arrest anyone for it - in 99.9% of cases it is ignorant more than anything else - people thinking it's funny and edgy to sing about a black man having a big cock.

However, there are still racial undertones to it and most people won't realise where the stereotype originated from and why people would find it offensive. So clearly education is needed rather than throwing the book at people which would only fuel the 'yer cannit say nowt' 'they play the race card about everything' brigade.

I would say you could probably give people the benefit of the doubt initially, albeit anyone with half a braincell could see it was both shit and problematic, but you have to question the motives of anyone who continues to sing it after the player has asked them to stop.
 
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