We’ll sing what we want

[halfpast3]

I'm just wondering that if the reason for everyone not to sing it isn't there would people just move to another reason? Like this.

And does your answer here mean that we must respect every player who requests not to be sung about?

None of this is in any way an argument to sing any particular song. Rather I'm wondering how far we can tell people not to do something with conviction? Racial stereotypes are obvious, but is that it?


You fat bassa is out for keepers then?

It’s a bit gibberish this but are you saying at what point do you stop signing a song about someone who asks you not to sing it?

 

[Whey]

Would it be fine to sing it it transpired he did in fact have a really big dick?

Fuck sakes. Obviously, the answer is no because the assumption of the chant is based on the stereotype of race. Is this not an easy thing for folk to get?! Gary Bennett was just given an MBE for his involvement in services to anti-racism in football and we're talking on here about a chant directed to a young player ON LOAN to us, which focuses on his nob cos he's black!

 

[wigwams]

If it was sung about a white player it wouldn’t be classed as racist though, that’s what I mean.

It wouldn’t be because he’s white

Ehhhh, are people still defending the chant after the target player has asked to stop it?

Yup. Snowflakes and woke apparently.

 

[tarantula]

Joining the debate a bit late here..
England v Scotland in euros Last year
England fans sung about Harry Maguires big dick...is that racist or stereotyping
I for one don't think either is racist or stereotyping..just lads demonstrating juvenile behaviour fitting big dick into a song and singing it.
Lots on here offended over juvenile behaviour not racist behaviour
Just my opinion of course having witnessed songs being sung about dicks belonging to both a black and a white player.

 

[Black Cat Gypsy]

Black isn’t mentioned you silly sausage

If Amad doesn't like it, we should stop singing it.

 

[10 Trenches Deep]

Fuck sakes. Obviously, the answer is no because the assumption of the chant is based on the stereotype of race. Is this not an easy thing for folk to get?! Gary Bennett was just given an MBE for his involvement in services to anti-racism in football and we're talking on here about a chant directed to a young player ON LOAN to us, which focuses on his nob cos he's black!

So if he had a big dick it would be ok to sing you think?

And I'm not really talking about that chant; It's quite obviously wrong. I'm wondering about how far we go to draw the line on what chants are unacceptable.

The start is to wonder if the chant was not based on a racial stereotype but fact, would it still be wrong? If yes, then would all abuse be wrong...Lee Howey, Rooney shagged a granny, fat bassa. Would all songs that players asked us not to sing have to be respected?

 

[halfpast3]

Joining the debate a bit late here..
England v Scotland in euros Last year
England fans sung about Harry Maguires big dick...is that racist or stereotyping
I for one don't think either is racist or stereotyping..just lads demonstrating juvenile behaviour fitting big dick into a song and singing it.
Lots on here offended over juvenile behaviour not racist behaviour
Just my opinion of course having witnessed songs being sung about dicks belonging to both a black and a white player.

But it is stereotyping, that’s not really up for debate

 

[Barnsley]

We used to sing (I assume) the same thing, about Bambo Diaby.

The club asked those responsible to stop, but people still sang it.

Diaby has not played for Barnsley for at least two years. He now plays for Preston. The other week - I think it was at Fleetwood - people were still singing it.

Basically, you can't stop it, because some people are thick, and beyond help. And they make everyone look thick, and beyond help.

 

[Whey]

So if he had a big dick it would be ok to sing?

Why do we want to sing about dicks then?

 

[10 Trenches Deep]

Why do we want to sing about dicks then?

You're asking the wrong person.

 

[Black Cat Gypsy]

What about calling someone a fat mess?

I bet people who think it's alright, will be the first to be offended by fans singing about Adam Johnson.

 

[alunb]

Why do we want to sing about dicks then?

We have a number of Massive Lads Fans who cannot contain themselves.

 

[10 Trenches Deep]

It’s a bit gibberish this but are you saying at what point do you stop signing a song about someone who asks you not to sing it?

Yep and is all abuse out?

 

[It'sDefinitelyLloydy]

Joining the debate a bit late here..
England v Scotland in euros Last year
England fans sung about Harry Maguires big dick...is that racist or stereotyping
I for one don't think either is racist or stereotyping..just lads demonstrating juvenile behaviour fitting big dick into a song and singing it.
Lots on here offended over juvenile behaviour not racist behaviour
Just my opinion of course having witnessed songs being sung about dicks belonging to both a black and a white player.

sorry to tell you this pal but you thinking it is not racist means fuck all. It is racist, and the sooner our thick fans realise that the better.

Any white fella who claims it is not racist is quite frankly an ignorant freak.

 

[Jasper]

Footy’s gone back to being only for pissed blokes now I reckon.

 

[Smartie]

Amad Diallo
Amad Diallo
Sent the fans a tweet
Now everything’s alreet
Amad Diallo

 

[10 Trenches Deep]

Footy’s gone back to being only for pissed blokes now I reckon.

Not with 12.30 kick offs (or else I'm just not trying hard enough)

sorry to tell you this pal but you thinking it is not racist means fuck all. It is racist, and the sooner our thick fans realise that the better.

Any white fella who claims it is not racist is quite frankly an ignorant freak.

I think the overwhelming majority recognise it's racist.

 

[halfpast3]

Yep and is all abuse out?

No but he has came out and asked the fans to be more respectful so let’s do it. If you were at work and kept talking to the black bloke in the office about how big his cock was and he asked you to be respectful and not talk about it, would you keep on talking about his cock or would you shut the fuck up?

 

[10 Trenches Deep]

No but he has came out and asked the fans to be more respectful so let’s do it. If you were at work and kept talking to the black bloke in the office about how big his cock was and he asked you to be respectful and not talk about it, would you keep on talking about his cock or would you shut the fuck up?

You're not reading what I'm writing. Of course he should be respected. I never sang it in the first place, instantly seeing the problem with it.

The question I asked was should we respect any player who says please don't sing X? And is all abuse wrong (clearly by asking that I demonstrate I know this song is abusive)

 

[Unlucky Black Cat]

Would you be happy about such a song being sung about you, at your place of work?

Absolutely not. I was questioning how "it's stereotypical but not racist" - hence asking what the song is based on (ie it's not about his height or shoe size but is stereotypically based on his knob size because of his race).

Seems like folk missed my point though .