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The Safety of Fans in the North Stand

wigwams said:
Problem with the East side of the stadium Is away fans are having to pass a hell of a lot of home fans and then queue to get in. Bother potential is way higher. NW corner it’s straight off the bus and in. God knows why they don’t just put a net up and leave SAFC fans alone
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The NW corner has very limited facilities mate. It won’t be cheap to sort that out.

Plus, both the executive boxes and west stand hospitality become an issue.
 

6inarow said:
There's a load of factors that dictate the reason to bring the away fans downstairs, surely the club cannot be blind to this...

1. Primarily the safety of the home fans is compromised every home game due to the risk of been hit by thrown objects

2. The club struggle to sell tickets behind the goal for for that reason

3. Empty seats behind the goal just looks shit for the world to see

4. The stadium was bloody designed to have away fans at the other end

5. They call the South stand the home roker end but still pre-match warm up at the other end because the dressing rooms are the wrong way round

7. The holding cells and stadium security is at the south end for any trouble

6. Atmosphere would be 10x better with away fans downstairs

There's likely to be more reasoning to put them back at the south end or in the corner, it's a no brained to me, will just have to re-locate some season ticket holders....theyve done it before
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1. Safety is an issue no matter where. Used to be fights and all sorts thrown when they were down stairs.
2. Not just that reason. Lower seats in most of the stands are less sought after due to weather factor.
3. There was always empty seats behind the goal anyway as often teams wouldn't sell out.
4. True when it was built. Now the upper has been converted to be another area for them.
5. Fair enough is true but means little when every stand of the ground is the home end when they are up top.
6. Atmosphere has equally been shit when they where downstairs. Swc just got outsung instead when teams had a decent following. Most grounds the atmosphere is poor now.
7. Also holding cells upstairs now. And with cameras etc it's no different as long as the policing is adequate. Also makes it impossible for their fans to get on the pitch.
There is always arguments for and against everything, but the easiest option is by putting in preventive measures or reducing away fan capacity
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
Apparently it was mentioned on Total Sport tonight so I don’t think it’s a secret or anything. The club have called a meeting on Wednesday. This is the first time (I think) they’ve came to us and asked us to attend.

It’s in person at the SOL with director level staff, so I’d like to think something (I don’t know what) is going to change.
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Took their time it has to be said but at least they are clearly taking it with the seriousness it needs. If I hear that “looking into it” is said once Davison should lose his position immediately.
 
Raker said:
Took their time it has to be said but at least they are clearly taking it with the seriousness it needs. If I hear that “looking into it” is said once Davison should lose his position immediately.
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As I said previously it should’ve been sorted long ago and I’m sure that’ll be levelled at them on Wednesday. I’m not there but 3/5 of us are going.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
There’s not thousands of ST holders in the north east corner. Well the number maybe over 1000 but the NEC & North stand lower are the least populated with ST holders.
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I was told around 2,000 SC holders will be impacted as sections in the north and east stands will also need to be given away.

I do wonder if the club are genuinely concerned that by putting up a net it would bring scrutiny onto the club which they dont want at the minute?
 
Hank Scorpio said:
I was told around 2,000 SC holders will be impacted as sections in the north and east stands will also need to be given away.

I do wonder if the club are genuinely concerned that by putting up a net it would bring scrutiny onto the club which they dont want at the minute?
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I think a net is bad optics for the club. Makes it look like they can’t manage the problem & doesn’t portray the family friendly vibe they want to give out.

We’d be (I think) the first club in England to reintroduce it and it could look like a hark back to the 80s.
Raker said:
They should be emailing every ST in the north stand imo, they should definitely be invited. Or at least a good chunk of them.
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I think it’s hard to invite 2000 fans to a meeting. Even at the collectives with around 25 of us it can take ages to get through things as everyone has something to say, rightly so like.

If they did choose to displace fans they should absolutely be consulted and accommodated as much as possible.
 
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DonaldDownTheWing said:
I think a net is bad optics for the club. Makes it look like they can’t manage the problem & doesn’t portray the family friendly vibe they want to give out.

We’d be (I think) the first club in England to reintroduce it and it could look like a hark back to the 80s.


I think it’s hard to invite 2000 fans to a meeting. Even at the collectives with around 25 of us it can take ages to get through things as everyone has something to say, rightly so like.

If they did choose to displace fans they should absolutely be consulted and accommodated as much as possible.
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Can’t imagine it’s easy for the club like but a whole lot easier than answering to the authorities when someone is seriously injured and the club has had 17394 warning signs without action.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
I think a net is bad optics for the club. Makes it look like they can’t manage the problem & doesn’t portray the family friendly vibe they want to give out.

We’d be (I think) the first club in England to reintroduce it and it could look like a hark back to the 80s.


I think it’s hard to invite 2000 fans to a meeting. Even at the collectives with around 25 of us it can take ages to get through things as everyone has something to say, rightly so like.

If they did choose to displace fans they should absolutely be consulted and accommodated as much as possible.
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There is definitely something in this tbh. The club seem very worried about the optics and it seems they would rather consider spending 200k-500k to move the away fans rather than put up a net.

I do wonder if breaking up the away support - a bit like they did when Utd went for the title at the SOL years ago, could be a temporary answer.
 
tunstallhill said:
100%. If they are anywhere near the south end of the ground then trouble will increase massively outside the ground as that's where the majority of people walk past both before and after the ground.

As it stands, anyone coming from the town or roker to the match and back home will have zero contact with the away fans
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Correct, don’t think I’ve ever seen an away fan after a match in 10 years.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
I think a net is bad optics for the club. Makes it look like they can’t manage the problem & doesn’t portray the family friendly vibe they want to give out.

We’d be (I think) the first club in England to reintroduce it and it could look like a hark back to the 80s.


I think it’s hard to invite 2000 fans to a meeting. Even at the collectives with around 25 of us it can take ages to get through things as everyone has something to say, rightly so like.

If they did choose to displace fans they should absolutely be consulted and accommodated as much as possible.
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Well let’s hope this “bad optics” is vigorously kicked into touch by whoever turns up from the fans.

Sheff Utd have nets - anybody changed their optics of Sheff utd as result?

I didnt think so

8 year old kid hit by vape... following fans hit by glass beer bottles vs Coventry City

With Millwall and Cardiff to come soon? Risking some very serious optics here.

And yet instead of the 20k solution advocated by the Safety Officer we now have proposals to move around literally thousands of season ticket holders at some point in the future

I can only conclude that stubbornness and certain people’s egos are now driving this.

FFS just put up nets like you see at literally dozens of clubs across Europe and some even in the UK in our own league.

If serious moving about is needed mid-season cannot surely make any sense can it?

Remember for whatever reasons the club has struggled to issue season cards on time to people who have paid in advance.

What chance moving 1000s around mid-season wont result in a mega-balls-up?

Just get on the phone, order the nets and put them up and stop dicking about ...unless you want to find out how much fun being prosecuted for failing to ensure reasonable health and safety within a public venue is.
 
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DonaldDownTheWing said:
A small police presence in that area would negate any trouble. We go away every fortnight and have to pass home fans at most grounds and nout happens.
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How many of them other grounds have they got the option of sticking the away fans somewhere both entirely segregated inside the ground and pretty much totally segregated outside the ground? Because any of them that do have this option, will take it
 
seaham ftm said:
Correct, don’t think I’ve ever seen an away fan after a match in 10 years.
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I sit in the north stand and barely see them. Unless they have been hammered and the fans have left early, I’m normally at the foundation by the time they have made the journey down the stairs.

Move them to NEC and thousands of us will walking direct into them on the full time whistle.

When Quinny and Short moved them originally, I was told that the corners had all been ruled out. Not sure what has changed now
 
seaham ftm said:
Would love to know how the atmosphere would be improved with away fans in the north east corner. Absolute joke if it happens.
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Even if it doesn’t (which it may or may not nobody knows) it’s stopping kids getting pelted from above with objects. Can still do it from the lower bowl like but doesn’t have the same effect obviously.
 
tunstallhill said:
How many of them other grounds have they got the option of sticking the away fans somewhere both entirely segregated inside the ground and pretty much totally segregated outside the ground? Because any of them that do have this option, will take it
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If we have the aspiration of opening the PC again permanently, you’re going to have the issue of fans mixing again anyway.
 
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