Put a flat earthier into space

[legend7]

When you take no notice you'll bound to end up like this.

I explained but I'll offer a little recap.
As the energy reflections move around the Earth they create a breathing dome scenario and that creates a pressure gain and drop to the area it is over, which means a massive area, not just a localised area.
The difference in pressure would be minimal on land but farther out the sea is being pushed upon a little at a time causing it to find another level and disperse, which it does at the beach/coastline.

I do try to help.

Atmospheric pressure in itself is generally invisible to us but the effects can be felt.
Gravity is a made-up word that offers magic in place of reality, which is atmospheric pressure upon any dense mass displacing it.

Surely this vast area of pressure must create denser atmospheric stacking, the thing that blocks our light at distance so at a low tide because of this pressure wave pushing down on the sea we should be able to see a much shorter distance out to see. Bearing in mind climbing 50 foot high enables us to see further out to sea because of less dense layers according to you?

Not too sure because most of the gradient would be inaccessible.

I can't give you anything about that because I haven't been there, obviously.

Most of the gradient is under the sea.

Hold on most of the gradient is inaccessible as in the projector area but most of it is also under the sea?
So the bit that we all live in is flat?
I'm on about the total landmass including continents and under the sea you know?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

They're not the ones making up mental breathing dome scenarios and can manage without the help.

Imagine saying pilots adjust for curvature.

At least until the day you learn some basic geometry and how reflections work, then it will change.

I'm fine with what I have.

And yet the tides somehow manages to not quite synch up with the daily pattern of those mystical, magical reflections of energy. Almost as if you made it all up.

Synch up as in how?

Why? Why would it have no effect on inland waterways, lakes, reservoirs etc?

It will but with minimal effect of pressure compared to oceans/seas.

You'd do well to take your own advice there, if only you could look beyond your non-globe conditioning.

I used to be brainwashed with a spinning globe, I've got past that.

Clearly, as one has been demonstrated, proved, checked and rechecked for centuries whereas yours is a number plucked out of a thinly stacked atmosphere.

Offer me something you know to be gravity.

 

[payne]

Not too sure because most of the gradient would be inaccessible.

I can't give you anything about that because I haven't been there, obviously.

Most of the gradient is under the sea.

surely by getting to the point just before it's too cold for man or machine one could circumnavigate the area and get an estimate of the area. that's what i'd do if I was a flat earther who needs first had knowledge for facts

 

[legend7]

Not too sure because most of the gradient would be inaccessible.

I can't give you anything about that because I haven't been there, obviously.

Most of the gradient is under the sea.

Also so how do you know there is a gradient if its under the sea and inaccessible?
If your whole premise is built on flat seas and landmasses what brought you to the conclusion there even is a gradient.
Have you been under the sea to check it?

 

[Kevj]

Back on the stronger medication I see.

 

[payne]

Also so how do you know there is a gradient if its under the sea and inaccessible?
If your whole premise is built on flat seas and landmasses what brought you to the conclusion there even is a gradient.
Have you been under the sea to check it?

because water conforms to a container and mitre deltas let water fall off them and that proves the earth is not a spinning globe in space vacuum hurtling around 93 million mile space rock in swing ball fashion......unhindered

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Imagine saying pilots adjust for curvature.

Ok, imagining that, what now?

I'm fine with what I have.

Only because you fail to understand how the actual geometry destroys your projector/dome story

Synch up as in how?

Synch up as in following the same regular pattern. Surely if the reflected energy moving over and around caused the tides, they'd do so at the same time every time the sun passed over and around. No?

It will but with minimal effect of pressure compared to oceans/seas.

So lakes and reservoirs are now tidal? You sure about that?

I used to be brainwashed with a spinning globe, I've got past that.

He who walks past his sandals barefoot and stubs his toe cannot blame Santa Claus for not making him wear sandals.
Or something.

Offer me something you know to be gravity.

Jump off a cliff.

 

[legend7]

I did find this I drew that you originally said reflected your underwater gradient under the sea as a cross section of your world then changed your mind because of sea depths.
Just trying to work out how shallow a gradient YOU think it is? Just very roughly?

This was nearly exactly 1 year ago actually, happy anniversary Nukey.

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Jump off a cliff.

 

[DaveH]

The pressure will always be different in different areas, obviously.
Pressure also has to push against displacement and travel to dissipate.

But lets be clear, this pressure wave of which you speak that is strong enough to cause pressure on the oceans to push a tide, can not be detected by any known means?

For example I live half a mile from the sea, it is low tide at the moment and the difference between high tide and low tide today is about 4 meters. Yet none of my pressure meters have ever detected this pressure wave strong enough to displace 4 meters of coastal water. Why is that?

 

[Pink Panther]

Potentially around 17,500.

When you take no notice you'll bound to end up like this.

I explained but I'll offer a little recap.
As the energy reflections move around the Earth they create a breathing dome scenario and that creates a pressure gain and drop to the area it is over, which means a massive area, not just a localised area.
The difference in pressure would be minimal on land but farther out the sea is being pushed upon a little at a time causing it to find another level and disperse, which it does at the beach/coastline.

I do try to help.

Atmospheric pressure in itself is generally invisible to us but the effects can be felt.
Gravity is a made-up word that offers magic in place of reality, which is atmospheric pressure upon any dense mass displacing it.

It's all about paying attention.

You're not helping your fellow global believers.

Those who ruin their sandals by kicking out cannot blame the person being kicked. It's worth understanding.

You're not pressing for simple stuff. You're pressing by opening the books of set narratives.

Too many "made-up words" in this post. In fact 100% of them.

 

[legend7]

But lets be clear, this pressure wave of which you speak that is strong enough to cause pressure on the oceans to push a tide, can not be detected by any known means?

For example I live half a mile from the sea, it is low tide at the moment and the difference between high tide and low tide today is about 4 meters. Yet none of my pressure meters have ever detected this pressure wave strong enough to displace 4 meters of coastal water. Why is that?

Water that ships a quarter of a million tonnes can float in because they can't fully displace it.
It's a very stealthy pressure wave I'll give it that.
The James Bond of pressure waves.

 

[payne]

I did find this I drew that you originally said reflected your underwater gradient under the sea as a cross section of your world then changed your mind because of sea depths.
Just trying to work out how shallow a gradient YOU think it is? Just very roughly?

This was nearly exactly 1 year ago actually, happy anniversary Nukey.

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seas must be deep as fuck near projection central. maybe this is the cause for the greatest of pressures that allows for the formation of the rivers of gold and jewels. looks a bit like Aladdin's cave Id imagine

Water that ships a quarter of a million tonnes can float in because they can't fully displace it.
It's a very stealthy pressure wave I'll give it that.
The James Bond of pressure waves.

It must use the same mechanism which makes light just pack in through demagnification unless a scope is used to make the light start working again. it's doesn't have a speed though

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Surely this vast area of pressure must create denser atmospheric stacking, the thing that blocks our light at distance so at a low tide because of this pressure wave pushing down on the sea we should be able to see a much shorter distance out to see.

Any higher pressure will always be the result of more condensed stacking. Basically more molecules per layer than the one above and so on and so on and so on.
Never will two layers be identical.

Bearing in mind climbing 50 foot high enables us to see further out to sea because of less dense layers according to you?

Yes, because you are looking through less dense stacked layers as you gain elevation.

Hold on most of the gradient is inaccessible as in the projector area but most of it is also under the sea?

Very little of it is above water compared to what's below it.

So the bit that we all live in is flat?

Not all, no.

I'm on about the total landmass including continents and under the sea you know?

And I told you how they sit in the seas bu8t you chose to overlook it.

surely by getting to the point just before it's too cold for man or machine one could circumnavigate the area and get an estimate of the area.

Let's say you hit an ice ring after the land and you circumnavigate that. It means you've gone all around that ring, only.
What is beyond it may offer you so much trek before you basically can't go farther. In or outward.

that's what i'd do if I was a flat earther who needs first had knowledge for facts

It's so easily said. I mean you can offer to fly me into your space and land me on one of your planets. But is this going to happen?
The argument is flawed to hell.

Also so how do you know there is a gradient if its under the sea and inaccessible?

The oceans to landmass offer us that.

If your whole premise is built on flat seas and landmasses what brought you to the conclusion there even is a gradient.

It's pretty clear.
Just go walking on the beach and follow the tide out.
Then turn around and see how far you walked down a gradient.
There's the simplest form.

Have you been under the sea to check it?

Yes.

Ok, imagining that, what now?

Decide whether you believe it or not..

Only because you fail to understand how the actual geometry destroys your projector/dome story

I'm sure you want to tell me, right?

Synch up as in following the same regular pattern. Surely if the reflected energy moving over and around caused the tides, they'd do so at the same time every time the sun passed over and around. No?

Not at all.
Only in the locality. The rest would be dissipated.

So lakes and reservoirs are now tidal? You sure about that?

I never said anything about lakes and reservoirs being tidal.
You take one step forward and one back if it suits you. I'm ok with it.

He who walks past his sandals barefoot and stubs his toe cannot blame Santa Claus for not making him wear sandals.

Correct.

Or something.

Jump off a cliff.

Or something.

I did find this I drew that you originally said reflected your underwater gradient under the sea as a cross section of your world then changed your mind because of sea depths.

No, you changed it to suit your ways, not me.

Just trying to work out how shallow a gradient YOU think it is? Just very roughly?

I'm sure you'll make up some of your own, as you did before.
What was it, 1000 or 1000s of miles high and whatnot?

This was nearly exactly 1 year ago actually, happy anniversary Nukey.

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Happy anniversary to you leggy.

But lets be clear, this pressure wave of which you speak that is strong enough to cause pressure on the oceans to push a tide, can not be detected by any known means?

Out at sea, yes.
Inland you would get minor variations due to tide displacement of the local atmosphere which would register on barometers, which would and does get passed off as simply atmospheric variations due to weather change, which is true.

For example I live half a mile from the sea, it is low tide at the moment and the difference between high tide and low tide today is about 4 meters. Yet none of my pressure meters have ever detected this pressure wave strong enough to displace 4 meters of coastal water. Why is that?

You're talking about a moving tide. There will be pressure variations but they will be a minor build.

If you look at a tide you'll notice it gains over many hours, not just one immediate water metre change in an instance.

 

[payne]

Let's say you hit an ice ring after the land and you circumnavigate that. It means you've gone all around that ring, only.
What is beyond it may offer you so much trek before you basically can't go farther. In or outward.

I would still be a worthwhile trip as we'd be able to pinpoint something real that proves there is a central area we can't access. It would be proof of the central area size and that could be calculated.
We could then try and drill into the ice wall to get closer until we hit the area no man or machine can function so can then determine where that area starts compared to the actual circumference or the ice wall itself.
We could also test the wall to see if the ice is any different from normal ice, i.e. does it melt with heat the same way. Early investigations would help us understand how inside the ice wall at some point it gets down to absolute zero that the drill stops, and the human body freezes solid. We could then maybe investigate as to how such a thing could exist when it is known that the projector at the centre is the source of all heat and reflections.
I think it would be worthwhile to the flat earth community to do these things to let us all know about the true reality of the ice wall, area where man and machine cease to function and to give us a proper working map. Also, it would be interesting to get some real footage from the flat earth community of the wall in all its splendour as well as maybe getting some footage of the Antarctic Protection Force in their special vehicles which have future technologies onboard garnered from the discoveries made from the area off all maps that yields the truth about nature.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Water that ships a quarter of a million tonnes can float in because they can't fully displace it.

Ships do displace water, I'm sure you know that but do you know why?

It's a very stealthy pressure wave I'll give it that.

Nothing stealthy about it.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Decide whether you believe it or not

I know pilots and in some cases their planes will keep a constant altitude which will account for the curvature.
They don't sit there thinking "Oh I've gone another mile so I'd better make another curvature adjustment"

I'm sure you want to tell me, right?

Tell you again? No. I think the two or three previous times should suffice.

Not at all.
Only in the locality. The rest would be dissipated.

Well you clearly have not thought that through. How come tides can be known and published days, months and even years in advance?

I never said anything about lakes and reservoirs being tidal.

"It will but with minimal effect of pressure compared to oceans/seas."
Is exactly what you said.

 

[BigPete]

Antarctic Protection Force

That's where most the Nazis went Hitler is still running the show.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I would still be a worthwhile trip as we'd be able to pinpoint something real that proves there is a central area we can't access. It would be proof of the central area size and that could be calculated.

I believe it's likely known to an extent.

We could then try and drill into the ice wall to get closer until we hit the area no man or machine can function so can then determine where that area starts compared to the actual circumference or the ice wall itself.

I believe this is getting done, to be fair.

Early investigations would help us understand how inside the ice wall at some point it gets down to absolute zero that the drill stops, and the human body freezes solid.

Unless we can create an artificial climate with drilling or tunneling then everything's going to seize up.

We could then maybe investigate as to how such a thing could exist when it is known that the projector at the centre is the source of all heat and reflections.

To the centre would be impossible in my opinion but to the outer, maybe if we have the means to overcome the freeze.

I think it would be worthwhile to the flat earth community to do these things to let us all know about the true reality of the ice wall, area where man and machine cease to function and to give us a proper working map.

Only those at the top would get anywhere near doing something outside of normal realms.

Also, it would be interesting to get some real footage from the flat earth community of the wall in all its splendour as well as maybe getting some footage of the Antarctic Protection Force in their special vehicles which have future technologies onboard garnered from the discoveries made from the area off all maps that yields the truth about nature.

It would be interesting getting some real footage of Earth in its entirety but all we're treated to is a CGI ball.

I know pilots and in some cases their planes will keep a constant altitude which will account for the curvature.

Aye but not taking any curvature into account.

They don't sit there thinking "Oh I've gone another mile so I'd better make another curvature adjustment"

Hendo thinks they do.

Well you clearly have not thought that through. How come tides can be known and published days, months and even years in advance?

Energy movement with regularity over the sky over the year and subsequent years.

 

[payne]

That's where most the Nazis went Hitler is still running the show.

I thought the Nazis were on the moon until I found out that's just a reflection of the projection from the carbon arc

 

[Kevj]

This aeroplane altitude correction nonsense needs to be put to bed.

@Nukehasslefan, jump in the car, find a perfectly straight road and drive it without touching your steering wheel to make constant slight corrections to counter wind, the road surface etc.

Aeroplanes are affected by wind and even autopilot doesn’t just make adjustments at set locations to change direction and external influences don’t affect the plane only in the horizontal plane.

This is a continuous background process which becomes almost immeasurable. Similar as correcting direction via the steering wheel when driving along a straight road.