I was thinking about that at the weekend when looking at repairing something for my son. It involved stripping down an electric motor, cleaning it up etc. Can I describe in detail exactly how it works? Yes. Can I prove there is a magnetic field and it only affects certain things? Yes. Can I describe how an electromagnet works and how the opposing magnetic fields cause the motion? Yes. Have I ever made an electromagnet myself? Yes. But did I invent the electric motor and discover electromagnetism myself or was I just schooled into this stuff. Well no I didn't invent it and I did learn it at school. Well sorry, that is invalid, that is an appeal to authority and therefore I can't stand here and say that electric motors are real and I clearly don't have a clue how they work.
This clearly means there is absolutely zero evidence for how an electric motor works and puts that idea on a lower footing to the idea that it is a votabulator being brought into existence from a higher dimension because of the presence of electricity arcing and they like to turn coils of metal. It is logical if you free your mind from what you have been schooled and think it through.
To be fair a better argument would be for you to say you've mapped your globe and know everything to be correct.
By doing that you absolutely shut me up.
Is this the case?
He is floundering desperately on this one.
Actually, this stuff makes me stronger and much more resilient.
It is such a simple thing to provide. We have gone into all sorts of stuff that is hard to present on the web. Light, sound, space, magnetism, gravity, magic crystals, but a map is simple and we should have really just stuck with the basics 800 pages ago.
A map isn't simple. It's only simple to you because you think you live on a globe and the map has been provided for you.
A map either works or it doesn't and it can be verified.
That depends on the map and what is actually being verified.
What exactly have you verified about the map of what you're told is your world?
We can't send something into space easily.
We can't send anything into the space we're told about because it does not exist. But there's nothing wrong with you or others believing it to be true.
We can't point to people who have traveled into space and not been in the employment of a government sponsored industry or very large company run by the insanely rich.
You can certainly believe it if you want to. I simply do not.
But we can point to distances traveled by average people in their many many thousands day after day. It is the most basic form of independent verification. If we put all that data together we get a globe. We can't produce a 2d map, it just fails.
But your maps are all 2d, sold as a globe.
All he is stuck with is saying "tweak a map".
Of course, it would require tweaking.
The so-called southern hemisphere needs restructuring entirely due to Earth not being a spinning globe, so the landmass has to be altered and unskewed to actually fit reality.
The problem is in doing it. Why? Because it has to be put back into the initial state it was before it was altered into a globe.
He gives hints at what others should do. "Think of the UN logo", but has completely failed to provide something himself.
I can't offer any map from my own self. I can only offer potentials of maps I think better portrays a potential against one that portrays nonsense, which is the global one.
Bear in mind that if anyone mentions a squirrel, he will be all over it asking if they have ever seen one and if they can produce a photo they have taken themselves.
Have you seen one?
Look at the whole Jupiter discussion a few weeks ago. Jumping on everyone, "ah but have you got a photo of Jupiter you took yourself?". Asking the same people the same question over and over again, dismissing any talk of Jupiter if they had not produced their own image. It is convenient deflection, if you don't have your own then your argument is invalid.
Not at all. I asked a question about who took a picture of what they believe is a gaseous planet. Nothing more than that.
I offered reasons why I don't think there are planets and reasons why gaseous planets are nonsensical. That's basically it.
Until I produced one I took myself and followed it up again with another one I took in the last couple of weeks (I think or did I forget to share that?). No reply to my posts.
What reply were you expecting?
Give me your evidence he demands, but is happy to tell us we are all misguided fools, he knows the truth but can't put forward a simple map of his fantasy world or he claims there are loads of simple experiments that disprove the globe, yet refuses to describe a single one other that a spirit level in a bath, which has been proven to be pointless.
I don't demand anything. You offer it or you don't.
We will all ask again, but today and tomorrow will be another couple of days without him producing a map.
This map carry-on will go nowhere just like the global one goes nowhere.
In your own words, go and look for yourself. There are plenty of pictures, videos, websites etc that show we live on a globe. Where are all the pictures, vids, websites that show we live on a flat Earth with a magical holographic dome light show?
I rest my case.
Which bit is fiction, the length of the much travelled highway?
Not at all. I said the so-called southern hemisphere.
All of your ideas are taken from YouTube videos, so this shits on all of your arguments.
Lots of arguments are taken from all kinds of videos and the internet. Do you think I think you're arguing from a library book?
