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Put a flat earthier into space

Nukehasslefan said:
If that's what you took from circles then go with that and don't frustrate yourself.

No, and your words are absolutely meaningless towards me being a liar but feel free to carry on. I'm not complaining about it I'm just letting you know.

The map is already constructed in 2d and passed off as a globe. I've tried to tell you for long enough.

What else can I do? The spinning globe is not only far fetched fantasy it's a bold-faced load of gunk but at the same time a cleverly set-out bold-faced load of gunk.
I'm just glad I took the time to actually see past it.

Great because they offer real distances.

Let's see your pictures and all you need to do is to point out why you know they're not fake.
Or you can just keep telling me they're not and go nowhere.

It's amazing what it appears and what is said by those who believe in a spinning globe offering the sun as the supposed object moving but then changing the goalposts when the argument gets turned.

What's been proved as a fact?

I'm sure you can offer me a reason for this flow to the centre of your Earth....right?
Or is it...." it just does, alright."
It seems we can't even drill 7 miles and you know gravity exists to the centre of a spinning globe you've never witnessed....ever.

Facts, such as?
There are plenty of stories but which ones are backed up with facts in terms of what we're arguing?
Or are they your facts because you read up 0on them so they are what you're told?

The water level is water level.
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Wrong.
 

Nukehasslefan said:
You make fantastic arguments.
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You keep repeating yourself every day with the same incorrect statements.

Whether these statements are just you being wrong and not realising it, or it's you lying to us, it doesn't really matter. "Wrong" just sums it up.

I've already told you many times why they're wrong in great detail, as have a whole bunch of other people, but you just keep repeating them post after post, page after page.

If you didn't understand why you were wrong because you just cant get your head around science and maths (or if you didn't acknowledge why you were wrong because you wanted to continue lying) after the first few hundred times it was explained to you, then there's no point me continuing to repeat those explanations to you.
 
fyl2u said:
You keep repeating yourself every day with the same incorrect statements.

Whether these statements are just you being wrong and not realising it, or it's you lying to us, it doesn't really matter. "Wrong" just sums it up.

I've already told you many times why they're wrong in great detail, as have a whole bunch of other people, but you just keep repeating them post after post, page after page.

If you didn't understand why you were wrong because you just cant get your head around science and maths, or if you didn't acknowledge why you were wrong because you wanted to continue lying, after the first few hundred times it has been explained to you, then there's no point me continuing to repeat those explanations to you.
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Wrong.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
If that's what you took from circles then go with that and don't frustrate yourself.

No, and your words are absolutely meaningless towards me being a liar but feel free to carry on. I'm not complaining about it I'm just letting you know.

The map is already constructed in 2d and passed off as a globe. I've tried to tell you for long enough.

What else can I do? The spinning globe is not only far fetched fantasy it's a bold-faced load of gunk but at the same time a cleverly set-out bold-faced load of gunk.
I'm just glad I took the time to actually see past it.

Great because they offer real distances.

Let's see your pictures and all you need to do is to point out why you know they're not fake.
Or you can just keep telling me they're not and go nowhere.

It's amazing what it appears and what is said by those who believe in a spinning globe offering the sun as the supposed object moving but then changing the goalposts when the argument gets turned.

What's been proved as a fact?

I'm sure you can offer me a reason for this flow to the centre of your Earth....right?
Or is it...." it just does, alright."
It seems we can't even drill 7 miles and you know gravity exists to the centre of a spinning globe you've never witnessed....ever.

Facts, such as?
There are plenty of stories but which ones are backed up with facts in terms of what we're arguing?
Or are they your facts because you read up 0on them so they are what you're told?

The water level is water level.
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What on earth do you mean the map of the world is 2d? No it isn’t, it is a globe. That is why we have globes.

You can get projections of the globe on a rectangular map, but these projections stretch out certain features to work. It is honest and well known.

Can you post an image of a working 2d map?
 
DaveH said:
What on earth do you mean the map of the world is 2d? No it isn’t, it is a globe. That is why we have globes.
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It is not a globe and is not mapped as a globe. It's mapped from a level setup but has been skewed into a globe and offered to us as that.

DaveH said:
You can get projections of the globe on a rectangular map, but these projections stretch out certain features to work. It is honest and well known.
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Maybe I'm not making myself clear.

How would you change a level and near-circular map into a globe?
DaveH said:
Can you post an image of a working 2d map?
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Can you post an image of your globe and tell me how you managed it? Just to be clear. A globe that you did, not one you can cherry pick.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
It is not a globe and is not mapped as a globe. It's mapped from a level setup but has been skewed into a globe and offered to us as that.


Maybe I'm not making myself clear.

How would you change a level and near-circular map into a globe?

Can you post an image of your globe and tell me how you managed it? Just to be clear. A globe that you did, not one you can cherry pick.
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I’ve repeatedly posted images of globes and challenged you do to the same for flatopia. You constantly fail. It is your turn here.

I have not mare a globe myself, but I’m confident the standard globes an maps work. Does not being my own work make it invalid? More desperate deflection in your part. You are convinced of this flat earth but after 3 weeks of asking, you can not post a single image of a working 2d map.
 
DaveH said:
I’ve repeatedly posted images of globes and challenged you do to the same for flatopia. You constantly fail. It is your turn here.

I have not mare a globe myself, but I’m confident the standard globes an maps work. Does not being my own work make it invalid? More desperate deflection in your part. You are convinced of this flat earth but after 3 weeks of asking, you can not post a single image of a working 2d map.
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it's a proper mental mindset that nothing can be believed if you yourself never invented the thing
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I have the UK to south Africa at around 3500 miles.
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Actually you say uk to south africa is about 3500 miles.
Trans Sahara highway alone is 3000 miles how does that work then? Did they pay the contractors to lay 3000 miles of tarmac but the cheeky buggers only put down 1000 miles of road?
Cars drive this often surely they would notice if they were going a much shorter distance?
Continent of Africa appx 5000 miles from top to bottom, is the UK inside this continent now then with it only being 3500 miles from S.A according to you?
 
payne said:
it's a proper mental mindset that nothing can be believed if you yourself never invented the thing
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I was thinking about that at the weekend when looking at repairing something for my son. It involved stripping down an electric motor, cleaning it up etc. Can I describe in detail exactly how it works? Yes. Can I prove there is a magnetic field and it only affects certain things? Yes. Can I describe how an electromagnet works and how the opposing magnetic fields cause the motion? Yes. Have I ever made an electromagnet myself? Yes. But did I invent the electric motor and discover electromagnetism myself or was I just schooled into this stuff. Well no I didn't invent it and I did learn it at school. Well sorry, that is invalid, that is an appeal to authority and therefore I can't stand here and say that electric motors are real and I clearly don't have a clue how they work.

This clearly means there is absolutely zero evidence for how an electric motor works and puts that idea on a lower footing to the idea that it is a votabulator being brought into existence from a higher dimension because of the presence of electricity arcing and they like to turn coils of metal. It is logical if you free your mind from what you have been schooled and think it through.
legend7 said:
He keeps saying we skew a flat map to make a globe but can't produce a flat map that works 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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He is floundering desperately on this one. It is such a simple thing to provide. We have gone into all sorts of stuff that is hard to present on the web. Light, sound, space, magnetism, gravity, magic crystals, but a map is simple and we should have really just stuck with the basics 800 pages ago.

A map either works or it doesn't and it can be verified. We can't send something into space easily. We can't point to people who have traveled into space and not been in the employment of a government sponsored industry or very large company run by the insanely rich. But we can point to distances traveled by average people in their many many thousands day after day. It is the most basic form of independent verification. If we put all that data together we get a globe. We can't produce a 2d map, it just fails.

All he is stuck with is saying "tweak a map". He gives hints at what others should do. "Think of the UN logo", but has completely failed to provide something himself. Bear in mind that if anyone mentions a squirrel, he will be all over it asking if they have ever seen one and if they can produce a photo they have taken themselves. Look at the whole Jupiter discussion a few weeks ago. Jumping on everyone, "ah but have you got a photo of Jupiter you took yourself?". Asking the same people the same question over and over again, dismissing any talk of Jupiter if they had not produced their own image. It is convenient deflection, if you don't have your own then your argument is invalid. Until I produced one I took myself and followed it up again with another one I took in the last couple of weeks (I think or did I forget to share that?). No reply to my posts.

Give me your evidence he demands, but is happy to tell us we are all misguided fools, he knows the truth but can't put forward a simple map of his fantasy world or he claims there are loads of simple experiments that disprove the globe, yet refuses to describe a single one other that a spirit level in a bath, which has been proven to be pointless.

We will all ask again, but today and tomorrow will be another couple of days without him producing a map.
 
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