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[Nukehasslefan]

They're not they are based on vehicles travelling the routes and measuring the actual distances

If you believe in a globe then you must be of the understanding that any route, whether it's flight or sea or road has to travel over a convexity.

No, the dstances are based solely on point to point distance, together they PROVE curvature.

No, they don't but that's factored in as supposed.

 

[legend7]

If you believe in a globe then you must be of the understanding that any route, whether it's flight or sea or road has to travel over a convexity.

But you say this doesn't exist so how can we travel over it.
Do you see the issue here
To clarify @Nukehasslefan
When we travel from say Argentina to south Africa are we travelling over a curve or a flat world.
Yes or no

 

[Nukehasslefan]

They are known distances because they have been measured by travelling between numerous points on the planet.
So when the car said 1600 miles to Lisbon we had indeed done 1600 miles yeah?

Absolutely.

But you say this doesn't exist so how can we travel over it.
Do you see the issue here

You're arguing for it and you're offering me an argument to draw your globe offering onto a flat circular map based on distances you believe are global distances.
The major issue with the map is the southern hemisphere, obviously.

To clarify @Nukehasslefan
When we travel from say Argentina to south Africa are we travelling over a curve or a flat world.
Yes or no

How can I answer yes or no to that question?

 

[legend7]

How can I answer yes or no to that question?

Well the world is either curved like a globe or flat like you say? Which is it?

 

[parm]

if a plane gets up to 30/40 k feet then flies level for hour after hour its not possible we live on a ball

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Well the world is either curved like a globe or flat like you say? Which is it?

It's not a globe we live upon. There's the answer but you know this from my side so I don't get why you need reminding.

 

[legend7]

You're arguing for it and you're offering me an argument to draw your globe offering onto a flat circular map based on distances you believe are global distances.
The major issue with the map is the southern hemisphere, obviously.

So when you said the globe map could also be drawn as a flat map using known distances you were indeed incorrect

It's not a globe we live upon. There's the answer but you know this from my side so I don't get why you need reminding.

OK so it's not curved like a globe, the journey is over flat unhindered water, the plane registers how many miles its travelled so why is this figure wrong?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So when you said the globe map could also be drawn as a flat map using known distances you were indeed incorrect

OK so it's not curved like a globe, the journey is over flat unhindered water, the plane registers how many miles its travelled so why is this figure wrong?

I already said I could not replicate your globe map into a flat map.
I said I would have to tweak it. Did you not read any of that?

 

[legend7]

I already said I could not replicate your globe map into a flat map.
I said I would have to tweak it. Did you not read any of that?

If you have to tweak it then it doesn't work then?
It can equally work on a circle according to you below?

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[Nukehasslefan]

OK so it's not curved like a globe, the journey is over flat unhindered water, the plane registers how many miles its travelled so why is this figure wrong?

Is your plane flying over a globe or not?

 

[legend7]

Is your plane flying over a globe or not?

I think it is but you say it isn't so if it isn't are the miles registered on the plane correct or not.
Is the plane faulty?

 

[fyl2u]

Let's make this simple.
Are those distances on your globe distances set out with curvature taken into account, in your mind?
Is so then exploain.
If not then explain.

Of course, we have and that's why I accepted distances.
But what you're failing to get from my side is, it's not over a curve.
There's a bigger picture here than just arguing correct distances and it6 comes down to the direction of travel and what we are told and sold.

The distances are the distances you'd have to travel either on the ground or in the air.

They are NOT the distance if you tunnelled through the planet.

When people say that it's 10,500 miles from London to Sydney, they are actually talking about the distance ACROSS THE SURFACE OF THE WORLD, not the tunnelled distance through the core of the planet.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

If you have to tweak it then it doesn't work then?

I already told you I could never replicate it from a model of a globe based on a southern hemisphere. I've never said any different.
I simply said I'd tweak it to make distances work to fit a better reality.

It can equally work on a circle according to you below?

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It can.

I think it is but you say it isn't so if it isn't are the miles registered on the plane correct or not.
Is the plane faulty?

Nothing to do with a plane being faulty but more to do with real direction.

 

[legend7]

I already told you I could never replicate it from a model of a globe based on a southern hemisphere. I've never said any different.
I simply said I'd tweak it to make distances work to fit a better reality.


It can.

So in the same post you say it can work but you can't replicate it to work with known distances

Nothing to do with a plane being faulty but more to do with real direction.

So they go in the wrong direction from city to city.
Why wouldn't they go the shortest route if its across unhindered water

 

[fyl2u]

It can.

And yet here you are, failing to make it work on a circle.

 

[legend7]

I wonder if the long range artillery in Ukraine use known distances or nukey distances.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

The distances are the distances you'd have to travel either on the ground or in the air.

They are NOT the distance if you tunnelled through the planet.

But the reality of a globe would actually only offer that by a sea of angle into the sky to level flight to then raise height over the globe unless it somehow follows the curve of it, magically.
But seeing as we're dealing with this then you have to get that the distances have to be based on curvature.
No other way to argue for it from your side.

When people say that it's 10,500 miles from London to Sydney, they are actually talking about the distance ACROSS THE SURFACE OF THE WORLD, not the tunnelled distance through the core of the planet.

Yes, a curved surface as we are told.
Distances would be massively skewed.

 

[What A Waster]

But the reality of a globe would actually only offer that by a sea of angle into the sky to level flight to then raise height over the globe unless it somehow follows the curve of it, magically.

What?!

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So in the same post you say it can work but you can't replicate it to work with known distances

Yes. But I'd have to tweak the map, which I have done.

So they go in the wrong direction from city to city.

What's the wrong direction?

Why wouldn't they go the shortest route if its across unhindered water

Do you think planes would be risked over vast oceans to landmass or do you think they would offer close proximity to regular landmass/airports?

 

[legend7]

Yes. But I'd have to tweak the map, which I have done.

What's the wrong direction?

Do you think planes would be risked over vast oceans to landmass or do you think they would offer close proximity to regular landmass/airports?

If you have to tweak it it doesn't work then, or can you tweak it to work, in its current form it doesn't.
You said directions may be wrong compared to what they think.
Aye honestly mate planes do fly over the sea for good distances, it's less than 5000 miles from south america to south Africa.