Fine for fiction but do you think they would play a part to fool the public if they were paid?
Do you realise that in order for this supposed globe hoax of yours to happen, more people would have to be in on the secret than were being duped by it? Once you take into account all the whole world's national and commercial space programs, airlines, flight schools, internet content providers, GPS providers, newspapers and news outlets, physicists, GPS providers, telecoms workers, university science and engineering lecturers, civil engineers... the list goes on.
It's pretty much half the world at this point. With so many people in on it, (and presumably at least SOME people offered the money to be in on it REFUSING to be a part of it and yet still not giving away the secret) surely it becomes pointless to even keep it a secret anymore?
Do you think people wouldn't be willing to play a part for a bit of fame, even if that fame was not sincere in the making?
Don't you think some people wouldn't, and would blow the whistle on the whole thing? Why haven't anyone?
Of course, you can think people won't lie or act out parts if you want to but I'm sure you know we don't live in a society where everything is just so honest, surely.
Half the world Nukey. We don't have that many good actors on the planet. Or that many people capable and willing to keep such a secret.
Everything. Literally everything.
And I'm asking him to prove a globe shape and tell me how distances were proven from a global perspective.
The globe shape is already proven. It has been for centuries, and has been repeatedly on this thread. It is peer reviewed by millions. It is the status quo. If you want to challenge the status quo then you need to provide proof that the status quo is wrong. A whole bunch of flat earthers have tried to prove the earth isn't a globe, some of which had huge pots of money at their disposal to spend on expensive equipment, but all have failed with no exceptions.
It is easy but as you and everyone know it takes a lot of skewing to fit. there are maps out there that mimic the global one but they're cast off as projection maps, which they are....but, they offer the potential for reality, much more than any globe could.
"Takes a lot of skewing"? To make the distances work even for only four distant cities like London, Tokyo, Adelaide and Johannesburg, your strips of paper would already form a pyramid shape, not a flat plane. Add more cities to your "map" using only the distances to each of the cities already added, and with each additional city you add your "map" will become more globe-shaped. It is literally impossible for anything other to occur.
You know why?
BECAUSE THE EARTH IS A f***ing SPHEROID.
It's a very weak case. In fact it's so weak that it falls apart and spews your clothes all over the platform if you even just glance at it.
The court rules in favour of the status quo.
Cell Earth Models ltd. are to pay all court costs incurred during this hearing, compensation of fifteen trillion pounds in compensation to the scientific community for slandering their name, and an additional fifteen trillion pounds to the British education system for science funding.
Next case?
Can you show me how you would map your Earth to show up as a globe if you had the required tools?
Get in a hot air balloon and float around all the world's coastlines with a camera.
If you can tell me how the supposed globe was measured/mapped to become one then we might get somewhere. Or show me how you would go about mapping your Earth for it to show a globe.
ANy ideas?
Plenty of them.
One way would be to measure the distances between each town and use a strip of paper to represent those distances, sticking more and more of these strips of paper together until every city in the world was connected on this "map".
Without the need of any fiddling or "skewing" as you put it, the strips of paper would naturally for a spherical shape, because that's what shape the world actually is, and the distances between towns proves it, just like the rafts and lasers experiment proves it, just like a spirit level in a bath would prove it if you used measuring equipment capable of detecting a curve that small, just like the Foucault pendulum proves it, just like a bunch of flat earthers with a £20,000 gyroscope accidentally proved the world is spinning at about 15 degrees per hour.
We know you don't.
Yes we do.
, except to look at a model globe and believe they're all correct.
Wrong.
It's pretty obvious all landmass is in the wrong place from my point of view because they wouldn't be convexly curved around a globe.
Strips of paper Nukey. Start with three towns a long way from each other, like London, Joburg and Adelaide. Use one strip of paper to represent the distance from London to Joburg, one strip of paper to represent the distance from Joburg to Adelaide, one strip of paper to represent Adelaide to London.
In each case, cut the strip of paper to scale. You've told us you know how scale works. Make sure the scale is the same for every strip of paper.
They should form a nice neat triangle when you stick the ends of them together so that both the "London" ends are together, both the "Joburg" ends are together and both the "Adelaide" ends are together.
Once that's done, add Tokyo. To do this you'll only need another three strips of paper:
- Tokyo to London
- Tokyo to Joburg
- Tokyo to Adelaide
What shape do yo have now?
The thing about water level isn't about me telling you it's about people actually giving themselves a bit of time to get past the story of curving water and actually seeing the reality which is always in their face and as clear as can be.
No, it's about you not understanding how it works, imagining experiments that you have no intention of performing, assuming you know what the results will be, and making assumed conclusions from those invented results.
The rest of us know exactly how ridiculous your "water level" statement is, and we cringe on your behalf every time you say it because we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that water level actually DISPROVES your flat earth, which you'd know if you ever did your proposed experiments like lasers on rafts on lakes.
But you won't, because you know you're wrong and you would rather continue spouting your lies on the internet.
Of course, it would be impossible to lay them out to perfectly mimic the model of a globe. That's not my point so you are missing the point.
No, you're missing the point. If you lay out the accepted distances between the cities, a globe forms naturally out of the bits of paper WITHOUT YOU TRYING to form one. Geometrically it is the ONLY WAY distances can possibly work. It's nothing to do with "making things fit" or "a lot of skewing" or "mimicking a globe", it's to do with the fact that geometry only works one way.
I explained not too far back what would need to happen
No you didn't.
Plenty of answers if you want to open your eyes and look, instead of sticking your head in the sand and lying about it like you're doing now.
It's always going to be painful for those who adhere to something which they also cannot prove but get frustrated that someone won't believe what they can't prove.
Thankfully you're the only one on this thread who is in that painful situation. The rest of us have proved you to be wrong a thousand times on this thread already.
