Public EV chargers- is there a knack?



Once EVs are almost universal, the government will find ways to make motoring expensive again.
I wonder what's going to replace Lithium based battery tech? Apart from the huge impact on the environment (and people) of mining it, lithium reserves will very quickly run out. There just isn't that much of it in the earth's crust, IIRC.
 
Morse said:
Once EVs are almost universal, the government will find ways to make motoring expensive again.
I wonder what's going to replace Lithium based battery tech? Apart from the huge impact on the environment (and people) of mining it, lithium reserves will very quickly run out. There just isn't that much of it in the earth's crust, IIRC.
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Like all technologies, improvements will be iterative, new gen li-on will replace the current ones in use, which will take li-ion to its theoretical maximum, longer life, better cycling discharge etc, while the new tech is belling developed that will replace them too.

lithium sulphur and solid state battery technology offer great advantages over the current battery technology. Safer, higher storage capacity, lighter weight etc.
 
Joe Public said:
Like all technologies, improvements will be iterative, new gen li-on will replace the current ones in use, which will take li-ion to its theoretical maximum, longer life, better cycling discharge etc, while the new tech is belling developed that will replace them too.

lithium sulphur and solid state battery technology offer great advantages over the current battery technology. Safer, higher storage capacity, lighter weight etc.
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At the moment they’re still not appealing to the average motorist, that needs to change.

As technology is growing so is the cost of the vehicles, that wasn’t supposed to happen.
 
joemcdokes said:
At the moment they’re still not appealing to the average motorist, that needs to change.

As technology is growing so is the cost of the vehicles, that wasn’t supposed to happen.
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Until you can get them for a few grand they won't appeal to a lot of people, not everyone wants new car payments for the rest of their lives, especially when you need 2 cars
Joe Public said:
Like all technologies, improvements will be iterative, new gen li-on will replace the current ones in use, which will take li-ion to its theoretical maximum, longer life, better cycling discharge etc, while the new tech is belling developed that will replace them too.

lithium sulphur and solid state battery technology offer great advantages over the current battery technology. Safer, higher storage capacity, lighter weight etc.
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Just a replacement for petrol or diesel would be nice, make use of the millions of cars that's out there and the millions that will inevitably sit there unsold if this electric nonsense get it's way
 
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Had visitors at the weekend and they had a right chew on trying to charge their car at West Wear St, Livingston car park, hospital and harbour View. They gave up in the end and charged it on the motorway on the way home. They didn’t have any bother in The Lakes mind
 
saltgrass said:
Had visitors at the weekend and they had a right chew on trying to charge their car at West Wear St, Livingston car park, hospital and harbour View. They gave up in the end and charged it on the motorway on the way home. They didn’t have any bother in The Lakes mind
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Why didn’t they just go further, seems a bit mad charging on a motorway rather than just go somewhere else for a hour or so?
 
Joe Public said:
Like all technologies, improvements will be iterative, new gen li-on will replace the current ones in use, which will take li-ion to its theoretical maximum, longer life, better cycling discharge etc, while the new tech is belling developed that will replace them too.

lithium sulphur and solid state battery technology offer great advantages over the current battery technology. Safer, higher storage capacity, lighter weight etc.
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The rub is that to build electric cars, there is still quite a devastating effect on the environment, not to mention the exploitation of people doing the dirty work. We're stuck with lithium based technology for the forseeable future, and it has to be mined. The more scarce it becomes, the more drastic measures will be needed to obtain it. Also, its price is bound to rise rapidly.

I've nothing against electric cars in principal, but I can see huge problems down the line for the technology. I think the deadline for stopping production of fossil fuel powered cars is going to cause a bit of a shitstorm, it's too soon, IMO. I reckon secondhand diesels and petrols will become quite expensive as people who simply can't afford the extortionate prices of electric cars will want them.
 
HellsBells said:
Decided to take the new electric car away. I knew public chargers were likely to be crap but dear god they are awful. Don’t connect, take ages, or they charge at much slower speeds than they say. Or there seems to be a process to follow - that isn’t documented anywhere - to get it to work - so plug it in first BEFORE you click the button.

Two chargers have failed for us, and another we had to do the Hokey Cokey to get it to work.

Is there a knack? What am I missing?
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The most obvious knack you are missing is the most obvious one - hand back your crap electric milk float and buy a proper car that takes either petrol or diesel- the latter are both more environmentally friendly than electric and far less exploitative of third world countries mining cobalt for batteries.
 
Apache Inbound said:
The most obvious knack you are missing is the most obvious one - hand back your crap electric milk float and buy a proper car that takes either petrol or diesel- the latter are both more environmentally friendly than electric and far less exploitative of third world countries mining cobalt for batteries.
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:lol:

“Milk float”

“Proper car”

Mate your 2012 Vauxhall Insignia is slower than even a shit EV :lol:
 

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