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CC :: Durham v Sussex
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Fortunately they do the training kit in 4XL. You are not allowed to ask how I know this
The Red Telephone
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I liked it when they seemed to be attempting to recreate the opening credits of Dad's Army.Scoreboards still off but nice picture on the electronic one
Well I’m sorry, but Surendiran Shanmugam has been ABYSMAL today. That’s quite clearly hit Dickson outside of the line of off stump.
That shout Raine had this morning which he waved away was one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen in the flesh too.
Horrible to see young Crocombe hurt there too, in instances such as that I really feel like you should be allowed to replace a player like for like. A genuine injury, which now means Sussex are a bowler light. It’s good for the team they’re facing, but I don’t think it’s right in this day and age to have to lose a man totally from the game and he a bowler down.
I noticed Ben Aitchison for Derbyshire bowled three balls this morning before departing too. Not seen anything since to know whether he’s returned or not, but I think cricket should find a way to allow replacements in such an instance.
That shout Raine had this morning which he waved away was one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen in the flesh too.
Horrible to see young Crocombe hurt there too, in instances such as that I really feel like you should be allowed to replace a player like for like. A genuine injury, which now means Sussex are a bowler light. It’s good for the team they’re facing, but I don’t think it’s right in this day and age to have to lose a man totally from the game and he a bowler down.
I noticed Ben Aitchison for Derbyshire bowled three balls this morning before departing too. Not seen anything since to know whether he’s returned or not, but I think cricket should find a way to allow replacements in such an instance.
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GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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As I keep saying, the standard of umpiring these last 2-3, seasons has been abysmal
Was Harmy there in some capacity?
I don’t agree like, but it’s a good debate, if you use test cricket As an example part of winning and the battle is getting through 5 days in the dirt, it’s hard and takes a lot out of you. I think you discount that if you allow more subs
I also disagree with concussion sub, I know most will criticise me, but if a bowler is too quick and hurts you, he’s won the battle, I don’t get the idea you can just replace someone because they can’t play the short ball
I don’t agree like, but it’s a good debate, if you use test cricket As an example part of winning and the battle is getting through 5 days in the dirt, it’s hard and takes a lot out of you. I think you discount that if you allow more subs
I also disagree with concussion sub, I know most will criticise me, but if a bowler is too quick and hurts you, he’s won the battle, I don’t get the idea you can just replace someone because they can’t play the short ball
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It isn’t always as cut and dried as ‘can’t play the short ball’.
You could be concussed from a top edge, or whilst fielding if we’re being honest.
I also find ‘5 days in the dirt’ a bit of an archaic reason for not allowing substitutes for a genuine injury. When you saw what happened today for example and also in instances like what happened to Simon Jones in Brisbane all them years ago - they’re freak accidents. It’s not down to being ‘weak’ or not up to the rigours of four/five days of hard yakka.
Injuries are as much a part of elite sport as the bat and ball is a part of cricket. If they have an independent medical professional at each game that can verify a genuine injury to stop people abusing it and like they do in other sports with regards to things like concussion, then I don’t see any issue with it.
I know it’s not always weak I agree but they are rarer than the usual reasons, and just an unfortunate casualty, if you change the rules tho I think it just takes that away
Just my view but you pick and XI and you finish with it
I also don’t like DRS as I think a good appeal is part of the game but I accept nobody on this forum will agree with that view!
Twisted
Striker
I agree in theory but policing teams taking advantage of it could be hard work.
Also could mean alot of players missing seconds or local cricket or moving on loan and actually playing to sit watching a game just in case they're needed
You could use your logic as a reason FOR the change in fairness though. It’s so rare that for the majority of games the XI that was picked and named at the toss will be the same XI at the end.
As I say, today Henry Crocombe bowled one over and suffered a nasty injury whilst fielding AND Ben Aitchison (Derbyshire) opened the bowling, got through just 9 deliveries and was lost for the rest of the day (possibly the game) due to injury. They aren’t trying to pull a fast one or gain any advantage. Instead, through no fault of anyones they’re now a key bowler short. As a Durham supporter I’m quite pleased that we’ll be facing a much weaker attack because I want us to win. But from a sporting sense it does feel like it’s high time that particular rule was addressed.
I’m quite surprised to find someone who doesn’t support it
Especially since even the BCCI accepted it in the end
You could use your logic as a reason FOR the change in fairness though. It’s so rare that for the majority of games the XI that was picked and named at the toss will be the same XI at the end.
As I say, today Henry Crocombe bowled one over and suffered a nasty injury whilst fielding AND Ben Aitchison (Derbyshire) opened the bowling, got through just 9 deliveries and was lost for the rest of the day (possibly the game) due to injury. They aren’t trying to pull a fast one or gain any advantage. Instead, through no fault of anyones they’re now a key bowler short. As a Durham supporter I’m quite pleased that we’ll be facing a much weaker attack because I want us to win. But from a sporting sense it does feel like it’s high time that particular rule was addressed.
I’m quite surprised to find someone who doesn’t support it
Especially since even the BCCI accepted it in the end
Ha yep good points mate, and the situations you point out are good arguments for if
I’d argue that they are rare and that a bowler pulling a hamstring in his 15th over would be more common
It’s just debate tho as I can see where the policy is heading and I’m probs wrong side of it
When I was a kid I used to look at warne influencing umpires over n over then getting a decsision and admire it, I used to try it myself as a young lad
I love that crack on a cricket field personally
Obviously just debating for crack as that ship has long sailed
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I'm not suggesting Durham are 100% telling lies about a Mackintosh injury, or they aren't picking Bushnell for any other reason than cricketing reasons but...
Players on rookie deals must be offered a pro contract if they reach "20 points". Points are gained as follows: First Class game 4pts, T20 2pts, RLODC 0pts.
I make it that Bushnell is on 16pts - 3x FC, 2xT20.
I make it that Mackintosh is on 16pts - 4x FC.
A further CC game for either player would see them reach 20pts and therefore a professional deal on the mimimum £30k.
Everyone is entitled to reach their own conclusions but I know where my conclusion is at...
Players on rookie deals must be offered a pro contract if they reach "20 points". Points are gained as follows: First Class game 4pts, T20 2pts, RLODC 0pts.
I make it that Bushnell is on 16pts - 3x FC, 2xT20.
I make it that Mackintosh is on 16pts - 4x FC.
A further CC game for either player would see them reach 20pts and therefore a professional deal on the mimimum £30k.
Everyone is entitled to reach their own conclusions but I know where my conclusion is at...
Twisted
Striker
Dickson is a more senior player having a better season.
Occams razor comes to mind. Killeen will want to win this game and I'm sure he sees Dickson making that more likely.
Also I just think the whole mackintosh thing is nonsense. He was probably carrying an injury but prepared to play if we couldn't find an alternative.
Y’see I was always on the opposite side of that
Used to piss me right off (and still does in club cricket) when teams appealed excessively. I think DRS has led to teams being a bit more honest and perhaps even humble with regards to claiming wickets.
I feel like county cricketers are better for it too. Obviously there’s no DRS in the Championship but there’s still a lot of batsmen who I see walking when they nick it and bowlers not bothering to appeal when they realise a ball is leg-side or high, etc.
It was reported during last weeks game that he was struggling with a finger/hand injury, which was a reason for the excessive number of byes we conceded. As soon as I read that, a lot of what I saw last week (to my trained, Wicketkeepers Union eyes
) made perfect sense.
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Twisted
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I suspect if the laws were changed to allow it all of a sudden you'd coincidentally see it happening very often... Maybe I'm just cynical
No I don’t think you are being cynical, I think that’s a reasonable concern - one which I share. I don’t think you can ever have a perfect solution but that’s why I suggested (and would always strongly insist) that the decision on a players ‘suitability’ for replacement would be made my an independent expert.
I know the NFL and World Rugby do it with regards to their concussion protocols for example.
Y’see I was always on the opposite side of that
Used to piss me right off (and still does in club cricket) when teams appealed excessively. I think DRS has led to teams being a bit more honest and perhaps even humble with regards to claiming wickets.
I feel like county cricketers are better for it too. Obviously there’s no DRS in the Championship but there’s still a lot of batsmen who I see walking when they nick it and bowlers not bothering to appeal when they realise a ball is leg-side or high, etc.
It was reported during last weeks game that he was struggling with a finger/hand injury, which was a reason for the excessive number of byes we conceded. As soon as I read that, a lot of what I saw last week (to my trained, Wicketkeepers Union eyes
I took a wicket at Henley (poshest of posh London) where it went to slip and the batsman was nowhere it, but a massive agressive north east appeal for the umpires finger up
Part of the game!
knowsnothing
Reserve Squad
Where are you pulling 30k from?
Yeah, that's wrong. Min pro contract is actually £27.5k.
Source/link?
What worries me most about that is 0 points for a RLODC appearance. Further proof that there is literally zero importance put on that competition.
