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Durham’s Next Boss

I'm not intending to be argumentative with anyone. I'm contributing to a discussion about a new coach which you yourself initiated. I readily accepted the Bushnell omission. I believe the club has regressed under the recent coach and director; clearly you don't. I don't have the slightest issue with that.

I think it's clear the club has regressed, the only debate point is how much that's on north and how much he was on ahiding to nothing given the sanctions and financial situation
 

I think it's clear the club has regressed, the only debate point is how much that's on north and how much he was on ahiding to nothing given the sanctions and financial situation
The sanctions have long passed but the club posted a £1.1 m profit last year yet we're using only 60% of the player's salary allowance. That's probably outside North's remit but using his budget on the likes of Crawley,Drissell,Maddinson and Robinson hardly a wise use of limited resources. None of them have enhanced the team.
 
The sanctions have long passed but the club posted a £1.1 m profit last year yet we're using only 60% of the player's salary allowance. That's probably outside North's remit but using his budget on the likes of Crawley,Drissell,Maddinson and Robinson hardly a wise use of limited resources. None of them have enhanced the team.

True in all senses although I don't begrudge the club being careful with finances and feel blaming North entirely might not be fair. Maddinson has been poor, I'd blame him for that. Robinson looked a good loan, some blame to the player some to the coach... Overall player recruitment and retention has been poor though but I'd say that blame can be spread around a bit
 
True in all senses although I don't begrudge the club being careful with finances and feel blaming North entirely might not be fair. Maddinson has been poor, I'd blame him for that. Robinson looked a good loan, some blame to the player some to the coach... Overall player recruitment and retention has been poor though but I'd say that blame can be spread around a bit
Apparently they're obsessed with the on-site hotel which they are convinced that this is the panacea for all their financial ills. They're dependant on an ECB loan for it. I suspect that they have to guarantee some finances themselves; hence the parsimonious attitude with salary costs. I'm assuming North is the sole responsibility for player recruitment. If not I don't know what he is being paid for.
 
Apparently they're obsessed with the on-site hotel which they are convinced that this is the panacea for all their financial ills. They're dependant on an ECB loan for it. I suspect that they have to guarantee some finances themselves; hence the parsimonious attitude with salary costs. I'm assuming North is the sole responsibility for player recruitment. If not I don't know what he is being paid for.

Yeah I don't disagree about north I just think player recruitment is being made to look worse than it possibly is by the coach being poor and the players underperforming.

Maddinson for example was a poor signing but he can't be as bad as he's performed
 
I suspect that they have to guarantee some finances themselves; hence the parsimonious attitude with salary
costs.

That’s certainly the impression Bostock gave at the pre-season members meeting. Let’s hope this isn’t an ongoing issue and some cash will be available for next season’s recruitment.
 
I believe the club has regressed under the recent coach and director; clearly you don't.

You really seem to have issues comprehending what I’m saying, which I’m not sure I can help, but at no point have I said we haven’t regressed under the recent coach and director. All I’m saying, is that it isn’t all doom and gloom. Despite the struggle this season there have been things to be excited/hopeful about.
 
True in all senses although I don't begrudge the club being careful with finances and feel blaming North entirely might not be fair. Maddinson has been poor, I'd blame him for that. Robinson looked a good loan, some blame to the player some to the coach... Overall player recruitment and retention has been poor though but I'd say that blame can be spread around a bit
Personally I'm of the opinion that they didn't have a lot of choice with the recruitment given the huge lack of of depth and gap, they had to get whoever was available within thier budget. For all I know they got the best there was, given the constraints.

I don't think they did well, but I can't say they could have done a lot better,

I think the original sin was the lack of depth in the squad to begin with.

Still. Mackintosh, Gibson and MacAlinden are good finds. The more I see of Mackintosh behind the stumps the more I'm liking him.
 
Correct

I asked the question. The first reply on their is a fella who goes to every game, I value his opinion highly, he's one of the best posters on that group hence I asked as I'd knew I'd get a fair and balanced reply.

I'll trust the judgement of Leicestershire fans who go out and watch their team.

They gave you a character reference, nothing more.

So he’s a canny bloke, but is he a winner? He’s on course for two wooden spoons from two attempts in the Championship.
 
They gave you a character reference, nothing more.
Disagree. I'll take his view highly.
Some further comments from Leicester fans;

"White ball progress this year has been impressive - would have qualified for both quarter-finals, were it not for CDC sanctions. Red ball needs more work, but there are good young players coming through, and some interesting signings….. Nico is a legend. Fact."

"Great coach and bloke. Leicestershire are very lucky to have him"

"Gives his all on very limited resources, maybe Brendan Rodgers could learn a thing or two from Nico!"


Some other comment from someone in Durham

Paul Nixon is a County legend. A total enthusiast for the game.
Plus as a Cumbrian - his natural home is at Durham CCC.

Cumbrians are our best players. The latest being Stanley McAlindon who is destined for the top.

At Northamptonshire we're in the same boat. Nixon has done very well at Leicestershire and despite the fact that we are rivals I always enjoy my visits to Grace Road. Hopefully they can join us in division one soon, or more likely we might be joining them !
 
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Disagree. I'll take his view highly.
Some further comments from Leicester fans;

"White ball progress this year has been impressive - would have qualified for both quarter-finals, were it not for CDC sanctions. Red ball needs more work, but there are good young players coming through, and some interesting signings….. Nico is a legend. Fact."

"Great coach and bloke. Leicestershire are very lucky to have him"

"Gives his all on very limited resources, maybe Brendan Rodgers could learn a thing or two from Nico!"


Some other comment from someone in Durham

Paul Nixon is a County legend. A total enthusiast for the game.
Plus as a Cumbrian - his natural home is at Durham CCC.

Cumbrians are our best players. The latest being Stanley McAlindon who is destined for the top.

At Northamptonshire we're in the same boat. Nixon has done very well at Leicestershire and despite the fact that we are rivals I always enjoy my visits to Grace Road. Hopefully they can join us in division one soon, or more likely we might be joining them !

I’ve read the thread on there, so no need for the spamming.

As I say, character references from laymen, nothing more.
 
I’ve read the thread on there, so no need for the spamming.

As I say, character references from laymen, nothing more.

If you say so
Yeah I don't disagree about north I just think player recruitment is being made to look worse than it possibly is by the coach being poor and the players underperforming.

Maddinson for example was a poor signing but he can't be as bad as he's performed

Bit of both most definately.
 
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He openly admits not caring about T20 format yet uses the format to defend someones record as well
Two sides of the bat though Chops . Similar to the days of hill or hollow in the school yard.Muchy makes it clear as a season ticket holder that he cares not a lot for the Slap & Tickle.However Nixon as a Professional Coach around the world has to have a winning mindset to please his bosses who pays his wages .
 
Two sides of the bat though Chops . Similar to the days of hill or hollow in the school yard.Muchy makes it clear as a season ticket holder that he cares not a lot for the Slap & Tickle.However Nixon as a Professional Coach around the world has to have a winning mindset to please his bosses who pays his wages .
Aye but don't use it to defend him if you don't care about it the fact they are doing worse than us in the main format says something as well doesn't it
 
Maddinson for example was a poor signing but he can't be as bad as he's performed

He’s an international cricketer in multiple formats, he’s clearly talented, it just hasn’t worked out for us which is a shame of course but it happens. He’s not the first overseas dud and he won’t be the last.

Keegan Pietersen being another big example of that. He was a signing which at the time looked brilliant, but unfortunately for us it didn’t work out.
However Nixon as a Professional Coach around the world has to have a winning mindset to please his bosses who pays his wages .

How pleased do you think his bosses will be that he’s claiming the second Championship wooden spoon (out of a possible 3) during his tenure?

The fact of the matter is, certain posters make their minds up about someone and because it’s their idea they absolutely refuse to be swayed or admit that they may have got it wrong even when there’s an overwhelming weight of evidence to prove they’re wrong. You only have to look at the rewriting of history that’s gone on over the recent pages with regards to results and youth development to see that.
 
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Two sides of the bat though Chops . Similar to the days of hill or hollow in the school yard.Muchy makes it clear as a season ticket holder that he cares not a lot for the Slap & Tickle.However Nixon as a Professional Coach around the world has to have a winning mindset to please his bosses who pays his wages .

Precisely this. I'm not a fan of the T20, I've always seen it as a night out but I'd not be against Durham recruiting a winner in any format. T20 brings ££ into the club and we were utter shite again this year and got some decent crowds all things considered.... imagine if we were good at it? Better crowds, more pints..... more money..... kerching!!!

Sometimes from a business point of view you maybe need to re-prioritise your objectives, so it will be interesting to see who Durham bring in and what we take as a priority in terms of white ball vs red ball. As it stands we're absolutely shite at every format, so something needs to change, hence this appointment is important.

At this moment in time I just want to see a winning feeling back at Durham, and I'm not arsed what format that is in at the moment. It's been demoralising watching us this season.
 
Leicestershire's only likely chance at present to achieve any form of progress or success is through the shorter versions .T20 where anything goes or the RL50 where they maintain the majority of their first team during the Tests and 16:6 .Any promising player tends to picked off by richer and supposedly bigger clubs .The ground itself is very basic and unlikely to attract big crowds for internationals etc.Definitely a club in the doldrums results wise
 
How pleased do you think his bosses will be that he’s claiming the second Championship wooden spoon (out of a possible 3) during his tenure?

Not arguing the other points, agree with alot of what you say but just highlight this part as I'd say there's a good chance they're well aware of their limitations and focus on white ball cricket, in which they've done reasonably well and far better than us.

If he was here and given the remit of improving our 4 day team I think he's do a good job. Can't really be worse than someone who made us awful in all formats and alienated players
 
He’s an international cricketer in multiple formats, he’s clearly talented, it just hasn’t worked out for us which is a shame of course but it happens. He’s not the first overseas dud and he won’t be the last.

Keegan Pietersen being another big example of that. He was a signing which at the time looked brilliant, but unfortunately for us it didn’t work out.


How pleased do you think his bosses will be that he’s claiming the second Championship wooden spoon (out of a possible 3) during his tenure?

The fact of the matter is, certain posters make their minds up about someone and because it’s their idea they absolutely refuse to be swayed or admit that they may have got it wrong even when there’s an overwhelming weight of evidence to prove they’re wrong. You only have to look at the rewriting of history that’s gone on over the recent pages with regards to results and youth development to see that.
Depends on what Nixon's brief is 🤔 Going back in history Geoff Cooks teams struggled in the early days.The catalysts in my opinion was David Boon and the experience gained by the younger players.He can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear .
 
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