UFO's

[Boinger]

There is a secret organisation called Supreme Headquarters Alien Defence Organisation which monitors the UFOs and takes action when they can. They even have a secret base on the moon and all sorts of clever stuff.

You should copyright this idea. It would make a god Sci-Fi programme.

 

[KathyBatesHammer]

OK. If there’s an infinite number of possibilities then here are three of those possibilities.

1. In all the infinite possibilities we are alone in the universe
2. In the possibility within which we exist we are alone in the universe
3. We exist in the possibility, out of all the infinite possibilities, where there isn’t an infinite number of possibilities and there’s only one. And we exist in it. And we are alone.

I’m not being entirely serious or at all arsed about it except to point out that a number of people here, as usual in conversations like this, are saying that if ‘xyz’ is true then it MUST be that ‘abc’. In actual fact we have no idea is ‘xyz’ is at all fact and the answer could be ‘d’. anyway

I’m sure all this philosophical naval gazing helped me pass many an hour when I was young but I realised when I turned 50 that I had to stop talking and thinking like a 14 year old.

(Im just having a sarcastic laugh talking bollocks on the internet by the way, not wanting to offend anyone. No harm intended)

My general understanding is:

In an infinite universe/infinite possibilies.

If life is possible. (It is, us) then there will be an infinite amount of life.

If intelligent life is possible. (It is, us) then there will be an infinite amount of intelligent life.

If something is possible, in an infinite universe then it must have happened an infinite number of time.

Or something like that.

 

[fyl2u]

My general understanding is:

In an infinite universe/infinite possibilies.

If life is possible. (It is, us) then there will be an infinite amount of life.

If intelligent life is possible. (It is, us) then there will be an infinite amount of intelligent life.

If something is possible, in an infinite universe then it must have happened an infinite number of time.

Or something like that.

But also:

If it is possible for life not to exist somewhere, then there will be an infinite number of universes where there is no life at all.

If it is possible for life to exist but there not be any intelligent life other than us, then there will be an infinite number of universes where there's life but no intelligent life other than us.

...and on, and on, and on...

 

[Deleted member 14766]

But also:

If it is possible for life not to exist somewhere, then there will be an infinite number of universes where there is no life at all.

If it is possible for life to exist but there not be any intelligent life other than us, then there will be an infinite number of universes where there's life but no intelligent life other than us.

...and on, and on, and on...

… and an infinite number of universes where the level of ‘intelligence’ that the ‘intelligent life’ is so self destructive that in cosmic terms it lasts a mere blink of the supreme beings eye so that non of the other so-called intelligent civilisations ever meet or encounter them.

And an infinite number of bushes with an infinite number of dog-poo bags hanging from an infinite number of branches.

Also: Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so

 

[skullmeister]

This is a fascinating watch for anyone with an interest in the subject. Garry Nolan is a seriously smart guy who has no reason to lie, enjoy

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[Ilios]

My general understanding is:

In an infinite universe/infinite possibilies.

If life is possible. (It is, us) then there will be an infinite amount of life.

If intelligent life is possible. (It is, us) then there will be an infinite amount of intelligent life.

If something is possible, in an infinite universe then it must have happened an infinite number of time.

Or something like that.

No, because infinite isn't a rational quantity. There's no such thing as infinite number of biscuits

 

[fyl2u]

This is a fascinating watch for anyone with an interest in the subject. Garry Nolan is a seriously smart guy who has no reason to lie, enjoy

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Tucker Carlson, that bastion of truth and belief in science.

 

[TreborTribble]

I'm fairly sure the most respected astrophysicists all agree that the universe is not infinite. I am taking Prof Brian Coxs' word for that though.
Personally I believe Alien life does exist, including intelligent life. I don't believe it has travelled here for three reasons:

Either they are friendly and would have made contact or-
They are unfriendly and would have invaded/eliminated us to steal resources -
Finally they didn't think we were advanced enough to contact and would therefore have simply left us alone as uninteresting.

EDIT: Current understanding of physics says that faster than light is not possible which makes interstellar travel unlikely, at least for human exploration. The development of artificial intelligence may resolve this if only by sending drones into space

 

[Ilios]

Tucker Carlson, that bastion of truth and belief in science.

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Fox's literal defence in court was that Tucker Carlson isn't presenting news or factual-based commentary, but engaging in vast hyperbole and should be viewed with a pinch of salt. That's how his own network defines him

 

[MunkyHeed]

Good article published yesterday by Chris Mellon - Ex Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (basically the no.3 at the Pentagon)

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[skullmeister]

Tucker Carlson, that bastion of truth and belief in science.

He's just asking questions

 

[MunkyHeed]

This is a fascinating watch for anyone with an interest in the subject. Garry Nolan is a seriously smart guy who has no reason to lie, enjoy

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He’s done loads of good interviews recently. Seen the one with Ross Coulthard?
Around 34mins

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Tucker Carlson, that bastion of truth and belief in science.

Carlson is a massive wanker agreed, but he’s happy to give constant airtime to the subject on a major news network.

Yes, it’s on Fox News, however, regardless of your political stance The US government recently got BIPARTISAN support to make sure the shadowy corners of the government are telling everything they know about the subject to Congress.

Bipartisan support for anything in the US is virtually unheard of these days. The decision makers on both sides of the govt have been shown stuff behind closed doors recently that’s made them ALL shit their pants & force through reforms on the topic quickly…. Going all the way back to 1947 specifically. (‘coincidentally’ the same year as the Roswell crash)

 

[skullmeister]

He’s done loads of good interviews recently. Seen the one with Ross Coulthard?
Around 34mins

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Carlson is a massive wanker agreed, but he’s happy to give constant airtime to the subject on a major news network.

Yes, it’s on Fox News, however, regardless of your political stance The US government recently got BIPARTISAN support to make sure the shadowy corners of the government are telling everything they know about the subject to Congress.

Bipartisan support for anything in the US is virtually unheard of these days. The decision makers on both sides of the govt have been shown stuff behind closed doors recently that’s made them ALL shit their pants & force through reforms on the topic quickly…. Going all the way back to 1947 specifically. (‘coincidentally’ the same year as the Roswell crash)

Cheers, will be giving that a watch. Very interesting what your saying about Bipartisan support!

 

[tunstall birdman]

Fine with me, but the technology I saw…..quite simply doesn’t exist here……unless it’s secretive military stuff of course

I'm with you on this. Once you have witnessed the real deal, it changes your whole view on what we have been told about how advanced technology and flight really are. They exist 100%, but who and what they are is the question?

 

[Kent_Mackem]

You have to ask yourself though what is more likely..

1. That life exists at all outside of Earth.
AND
2. It has been around long enough to evolve into intelligent life.
AND
3. It coincidentally exists in the part of the universe that is within 130 light years of us so that they will be within range of our 130 years of so of man-made radio waves (i.e. they are able to detect us). This is a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the universe, or even "our" galaxy. It is difficult to appreciate how tiny this region is in proportion to the rest of the universe.
AND
4. They are bothered enough to spend that much time and energy (at a cost) to come and visit.
AND
5. They have technology enough to make that journey in less than 130 years, which is a stretch of anybody's imagination or common sense as they would need to be approaching light speed).
AND
6. They avoided all of our early warning systems and SETI, and were able to fly around all undetected by anybody other than a few people on message boards and YouTube.

OR.....

You are mistaken and it was actually something else with a far more rational and simple explanation, that you haven't thought of.

I missed out, after number 2, to factor in that to still exist they must have been able to live relatively peacefully and not destroy each other and the rest of life on the planet. Something we are not successful at. Compare our stint on the planet, that is fast approaching its end, and compare the amount of time we existed to that of the dinosaurs or insects. Intelligent life perhaps isn't capable of surviving that long. Too clever for its own good if humans are anything to go by. Point being, perhaps the window of opportunity for intelligent life to develop space craft capable of inter-stella travel is critically limited.

I love this quick jump to lights in the sky, tik tak on navy radar and aircraft cams , to aliens . I think it's much more believable that they are unknown, non human but from our own planet or system.

The far more likely explanation is that it is something familiar but their brain has interpreted it to be something different, for various reasons.

 

[MunkyHeed]

Cheers, will be giving that a watch. Very interesting what your saying about Bipartisan support!

Yeah, the whole topic is making bigger waves in recent years!
In addition, Congress have made it so people who have had access to any 'UAP related projects' can now come forward and give evidence to them without comeback.
Before, they wouldn't be able to speak to anyone (even Congress) due to strict NDA's that they signed. Breaking the NDA would've resulted in losing everything... career, pension, livelihood, prison.

Plan is to have Govt. committees interview these (voluntary) Whistleblowers under oath & tell them what they know & who they report/reported to. Whole can of worms opens up then! Apparently quite a few have signed up to give evidence already.
Garry Nolan has mentioned 'speaking to the forthcoming whistleblowers' & says some crazy revelations are about to come out. Mind you, they've been saying that for 60 years, so...

How much of what is revealed stays secret & behind-closed-doors, who knows... but if it's revelatory, it's likely to leak.

 

[Kent_Mackem]

Yeah, the whole topic is making bigger waves in recent years!
In addition, Congress have made it so people who have had access to any 'UAP related projects' can now come forward and give evidence to them without comeback.
Before, they wouldn't be able to speak to anyone (even Congress) due to strict NDA's that they signed. Breaking the NDA would've resulted in losing everything... career, pension, livelihood, prison.

Plan is to have Govt. committees interview these (voluntary) Whistleblowers under oath & tell them what they know & who they report/reported to. Whole can of worms opens up then! Apparently quite a few have signed up to give evidence already.
Garry Nolan has mentioned 'speaking to the forthcoming whistleblowers' & says some crazy revelations are about to come out. Mind you, they've been saying that for 60 years, so...

How much of what is revealed stays secret & behind-closed-doors, who knows... but if it's revelatory, it's likely to leak.

I can hear The X Files music in my head now....

 

[Hbk69]

UFOs

 

[gards2]

Yep. I like them/

 

[fyl2u]

He’s done loads of good interviews recently. Seen the one with Ross Coulthard?
Around 34mins

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Carlson is a massive wanker agreed, but he’s happy to give constant airtime to the subject on a major news network.

Yes, it’s on Fox News, however, regardless of your political stance The US government recently got BIPARTISAN support to make sure the shadowy corners of the government are telling everything they know about the subject to Congress.

Bipartisan support for anything in the US is virtually unheard of these days. The decision makers on both sides of the govt have been shown stuff behind closed doors recently that’s made them ALL shit their pants & force through reforms on the topic quickly…. Going all the way back to 1947 specifically. (‘coincidentally’ the same year as the Roswell crash)

Cheers, will be giving that a watch. Very interesting what your saying about Bipartisan support!

It's got bipartisan support because both parties know there's nothing to tell.