Put a flat earthier into space

[What A Waster]

@payne
@DaveH
@peachy
@fyl2u

Thank you for your input.

Any more comments lads and lasses please?

Echoing what's been said, think the thread is very educational, loads of interesting stuff. Perhaps driven by the mad posts, but i find there's more useful information from many good posters as rebuttals to the nonsense. Worth keeping open imo.

 

[legend7]

It's all about who cares to look deeper into what's been said. I see you prefer to take the shallow end which is fine as many will do so.

I'm asking you to explain so I am looking deeper.
How does your vortex affect a sealed compass needle, what form is this vortex in if not a magnetic field?

 

[What A Waster]

It's all about who cares to look deeper into what's been said. I see you prefer to take the shallow end which is fine as many will do so.

If gravity doesn't exist and there's a vortex which moves only compass needles and not human hairs, why do you think a spirt level behaves the same no matter what conditions it's under?

 

[payne]

Have you ever been in water that is rough from above but a little below it's not rough yet still holds a force?
And then even deeper it holds much less rough-looking force but a more dense force that appears to look calm yet obviously isn't by feel.

Now imagine a whirlpool where you're away from the actual central force. You know the part that you get pushed into faster and faster but farther to the outer edge it becomes more manageable.

I'll let you ponder this and see how deep you want to think about it. I'm fine if you cast it aside but you do seem interested.

What if.........What if......What if most of what you're told and how what you're told works, actually work differently from what you've believed?

Can't happen, right?
Everything told is the truth, right?

Or is it?

I never said it was some form of wind but I did say it was part of the atmospheric vortex of pressure.
It all depends on how it's taken by whoever.

It should be able to be calculated. Can you show us some workings out. Data if you will from your side for what you are arguing which I dony have to accept or accept its up to me as its what you're offering as alternative to the narrative as globe earth flat earth unhindered nails it?

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

What if.........What if......What if most of what you're told and how what you're told works, actually work differently from what you've believed?

Can't happen, right?
Everything told is the truth, right?

Or is it?

Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that some things will turn out to have been misunderstood or just plain wrong, but not on the scale you're implying in this thread. How many of your ideas have been peer reviewed?
I know the answer BTW.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

He doesn't believe in chemistry and physics, I may be paraphrasing or slightly wrong on this but, he believes a solid is completely solid with no "space" and all that happens is that solid expands as the "crushing" is reduced those molecules get further apart and then turn to liquid / gas no there is no change in mass or volume as something is vapourised. I believe he said this was proven as there was obviously no space in a solid and there was even something about density related to this but my brain had fused at that point. I have no real idea why he needs to think this - I suspect it is either to do with his sealed system with a dome so there can't be flows or, more likely, the fact he thinks every single scientific fact is wrong and he knows better so comes up with nonsensical drivel for reasons known only to him.

Just to put it into simple perspective. There is never any true free space. Everything is attached and nothing is molecularly free from it.

Raidiation, Gravity, Magnetism - he doesn't believe any of these exist. Just noticed this is Page 666........

Radiation exists everywhere. There's no issue with that. Everything can be radiated.
It's nuclear that I question.
As for gravity. It's just a made-up word to describe something that nobody can ever prove and it caters for something that nobody will ever prove, which is a spinning globe in a space vacuum and all the trimmings offered on the back of that.

Magnetism is not even understood. There's a good reason for that.

 

[What A Waster]

Just to put it into simple perspective. There is never any true free space. Everything is attached and nothing is molecularly free from it.

Radiation exists everywhere. There's no issue with that. Everything can be radiated.
It's nuclear that I question.
As for gravity. It's just a made-up word to describe something that nobody can ever prove and it caters for something that nobody will ever prove, which is a spinning globe in a space vacuum and all the trimmings offered on the back of that.

Magnetism is not even understood. There's a good reason for that.

Even at the central crystal zone which heats our planet via reflection but it's too cold to get to or see, and is never affected by cloud cover?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

As @peachy mentioned in an earlier post, at what point does challenging his nonsensical views become bullying?

I'm not gaslighting him here but I agree with you, his recent reactions to entirely logical rebuttals are not the product of a healthy mind.

If that is indeed the case then I think we should consider locking this thread.

As there's a lot going on at present with the James Webb telescope, Artemis etc, it could perhaps be replaced with a general space thread?

What does everyone think?

How about you parsnip it if this is a general feeling?

But the pistons, do they pull or push?

Push.

What has that got to do with how your vortex affects a sealed compass yet water doesn't?
Can you explain how it works on a compass needle?

You have to go deeper into it to get it.
Nothing can ever be containerised free from external pressure. Everything is attached, whether that's a gas, liquid, or solid in how we see it.

I'm asking you to explain so I am looking deeper.
How does your vortex affect a sealed compass needle, what form is this vortex in if not a magnetic field?

To think from my side you have to get what I say about low to high pressures and trapped pressure within structures and pressures that go one way and cannot reverse unless manipulated.
Think of diodes and whatnot.
Go as simple as is needed.
Look at a window clamp also known as a suction cup.

Getting to know how and why they work can lead to understanding a lot more. But like I said it takes a deeper thought to go past the accepted norm which many will refuse to waste time on and I don't blame them. It's not for everyone.

 

[legend7]

How about you parsnip it if this is a general feeling?

Push.

You have to go deeper into it to get it.
Nothing can ever be containerised free from external pressure. Everything is attached, whether that's a gas, liquid, or solid in how we see it.


To think from my side you have to get what I say about low to high pressures and trapped pressure within structures and pressures that go one way and cannot reverse unless manipulated.
Think of diodes and whatnot.
Go as simple as is needed.
Look at a window clamp also known as a suction cup.

Getting to know how and why they work can lead to understanding a lot more. But like I said it takes a deeper thought to go past the accepted norm which many will refuse to waste time on and I don't blame them. It's not for everyone.

So how does a compass work in your vortex?
In fact what direction does the vortex flow and where is its centre, the so called north Pole?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

If gravity doesn't exist and there's a vortex which moves only compass needles and not human hairs, why do you think a spirt level behaves the same no matter what conditions it's under?

A human can move under those conditions.
A magnet does nothing until it's manipulated.

 

[What A Waster]

A human can move under those conditions.
A magnet does nothing until it's manipulated.

So how does the vortex move a compass needle but not a human hair, which doesn't weigh as much as a compass needle?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that some things will turn out to have been misunderstood or just plain wrong, but not on the scale you're implying in this thread. How many of your ideas have been peer reviewed?
I know the answer BTW.

If you accept some could be then it stands to reason it may well be a lot more.
One story of fiction sold as a fact does not make all stories fact, nor all stories, fiction.

 

[taipeisafc]

Just to put it into simple perspective. There is never any true free space. Everything is attached and nothing is molecularly free from it.

Radiation exists everywhere. There's no issue with that. Everything can be radiated.
It's nuclear that I question.
As for gravity. It's just a made-up word to describe something that nobody can ever prove and it caters for something that nobody will ever prove, which is a spinning globe in a space vacuum and all the trimmings offered on the back of that.

Magnetism is not even understood. There's a good reason for that.

Nuclear is a form of radiation - radioactive decay. Rest of the post is the usual utter bollocks from a moron

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Even at the central crystal zone which heats our planet via reflection but it's too cold to get to or see, and is never affected by cloud cover?

Is a water whirlpool affected by water in the centre or atmosphere?
You could ask yourself if soap suds swirling into that vortex would cover the centre.

 

[What A Waster]

Is a water whirlpool affected by water in the centre or atmosphere?
You could ask yourself if soap suds swirling into that vortex would cover the centre.

Why are you talking about baths again when I asked about radiation?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So how does a compass work in your vortex?
In fact what direction does the vortex flow and where is its centre, the so called north Pole?

Pash down.
If you were to cast a stick on a string into a whirlpool which direction would your stick be showing?

Why are you talking about baths again when I asked about radiation?

Lots of things coming at me. Be specific.

 

[What A Waster]

Pash down.
If you were to cast a stick on a string into a whirlpool which direction would your stick be showing?

Lots of things coming at me. Be specific.

Ok.

Why does the vortex move a compass needle but not a human hair (which doesn't weight as much as a compass needle)?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Ok.

Why does the vortex move a compass needle but not a human hair (which doesn't weight as much as a compass needle)?

I already told you a compass has to be manipulated in order to work. To move. A human hair would also move as we regularly see with what's called, static.

 

[legend7]

Pash down.
If you were to cast a stick on a string into a whirlpool which direction would your stick be showing?

Lots of things coming at me. Be specific.

Well if the north Pole is the centre they would generally straighten up and travel in an East or West direction getting closer to the centre, how does that show on a compass though as they tend to straighten up north to south?

 

[What A Waster]

I already told you a compass has to be manipulated in order to work. To move. A human hair would also move as we regularly see with what's called, static.

What from the vortex manipulates it to make it point north?

I mean, i thought it was magnetism, and with human hairs not being magnetic they don't point north.

Why are compass needles always pointing north, unless put close to a magnetic field? You say its the vortex, so if I'm holding a peice of thread or a human hair, why would they not point in the direction of this vortex