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Football Insider say it's Mowbray.

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Maravilla said:
Certainly don't have expectations of us getting promoted within the next couple of seasons but I really hoped that the days of us hiring whichever journeyman manager happened to be available at any given time were over.
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This is it like. On the one hand you’ve got people extolling the virtues of optimistic modernity, data analysis and pointing to Brentford as a good example of doing things right. And then on the other justifying the Mowbray appointment.

For me those two things are entirely mutually exclusive. There’s a good chance Mowbray may come in and do ok. But anyone that’s suggesting this is a positive signal of intent for the club’s direction and vision I think would be kidding themselves. Could they honestly Brentford making this type of appointment for example?

Just call what this appointment for what it is. Cheap, available, obvious and safe. I think you can be content with that but not convincingly whilst saying the club is somewhat different now to how it has been in the past.
 
chunksafc said:
It appears to me that there is a division between some fans on expectations for the club and that shows in the manager discussion.

On one side fans who are happy to consolidate this year, small steps forward while building the squad and club

On the other fans who think we should be aiming higher at maybe play offs and a promotion push next season.

The consolidate side see Mowbray as the sensible appointment that fits the backroom system and their expectations.

The play off / challenge side see him as too steady, not dynamic enough to provide that push and move us on.

Me I'm on the consolidate side, I've seen too many false dawn's, too many journeyman players, too much waste and a club built on sand and the depth of the owners pockets. The consolidate way I believe will eventually lead to the top division without requiring the owner to fund it
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I think anyone who was expecting anything other than survival with an outside chance of mid-table mediocrity, maybe has forgotten where we've been for the last 5 seasons.

We're in a period of re-building, but largely have the same squad as we had in L1 - adapting to the Champ will take time.

In some ways, I'm glad the greedy **** has left now, very early in the season, while in decent shape and having demonstrated we can compete at this level......imagine if he went when we were mid slump (it could easily happen), with no window open.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
This is it like. On the one hand you’ve got people extolling the virtues of optimistic modernity, data analysis and pointing to Brentford as a good example of doing things right. And then on the other justifying the Mowbray appointment.

For me those two things are entirely mutually exclusive. There’s a good chance Mowbray may come in and do ok. But anyone that’s suggesting this is a positive signal of intent for the club’s direction and vision I think would be kidding themselves. Could they honestly Brentford making this type of appointment for example?

Just call what this appointment for what it is. Cheap, available, obvious and safe. I think you can be content with that but not convincingly whilst saying the club is somewhat different now to how it has been in the past.
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Great Post. Other people see some sort of amazing plan by our owners, the brentford way etc. I see us going for a cheap, out of work manager, hoping we strike lucky, like with Neil. I don't really think our owner has a plan, in fact, I don't think he has much interest in us. I hope I am wrong
 
It is what it is, I was gutted that we got Alex Neil however even more gutted that he left.
Mobray is a meh appointment for me, but he's managed in championship and done well, he's good with young players, and fans of his past clubs seem to love him so let's see, this could turn into a Howard Wilkinson or it could turn into a peter Reid.

I'll back the owld miserable fucker and hopefully enjoy the ride
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
This is it like. On the one hand you’ve got people extolling the virtues of optimistic modernity, data analysis and pointing to Brentford as a good example of doing things right. And then on the other justifying the Mowbray appointment.

For me those two things are entirely mutually exclusive. There’s a good chance Mowbray may come in and do ok. But anyone that’s suggesting this is a positive signal of intent for the club’s direction and vision I think would be kidding themselves. Could they honestly Brentford making this type of appointment for example?

Just call what this appointment for what it is. Cheap, available, obvious and safe. I think you can be content with that but not convincingly whilst saying the club is somewhat different now to how it has been in the past.
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Apologies if you’ve already said, but who would have been your choice?
 
Can't imagine they've even had time to interview anyone else. From stating last time it was important to go through the process thoroughly, no matter the time. To now having mowbray at the game on Saturday and in place 3 days later
 
Northern Echo saying although his appointment will be today he won’t be in the dugout for tomorrow’s game? I hope they’ve got that last bit wrong !
 
Alfa said:
I think the people having a go at the impending appointment of Mowbray are either still not over Neil leaving or letting Mowbray’s Boro association or alleged dour persona affect their judgement.

Given the timing of Neil’s departure the club were completely blind sided and no doubt well aware of the justified criticism they received after taking so long to replace Johnson, set about finding a suitably qualified replacement quickly.

Mowbray ticks pretty much every box and is available to start work today.

I‘ve been very critical of the club previously where I feel it’s justified but I think they’ve handled this pretty well since Neil dumped them in it.

As ever results will be the litmus test.
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Good post
 
Rokeroar said:
Apologies if you’ve already said, but who would have been your choice?
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Any coach or manager that is at the right end of their career, shows a little bit of thought, research and ambition. Of the names that have been linked, I wouldn’t have been averse to Manning or Barry. I’d quite liked to see us show a bit of ambition and employ someone who is in work and highly rated; a McKenna type for example.

The point is that Speakman last time said there was a process and there was constantly a review, monitoring and succession planning for coaches that fit the model for when one departs. It just so happens that the last manager appointed approached us and was only appointed after a drawn out shambolic process that showed no signs of succession planning and this one is a bloke who is local, mates with the head of recruitment and cheaply available because he’s out of work.

I think we’re being spun a bit of a yarn about how well organised we actually are. If you look at appointments to positions in the wider club and the off field operations, there is plenty of evidence to show we’re not a well oiled machine in any sense of the term.
 
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Alfa said:
Northern Echo saying although his appointment will be today he won’t be in the dugout for tomorrow’s game? I hope they’ve got that last bit wrong !
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Seems a bit odd, good chance of getting 3 points and you’d hope the new manager bounce would contribute to getting them
 
Blackburn Rovers supporter here.
I will try to give you an objective analysis.
STRENGTHS
A very committed and thoughtful man with great integrity.
An excellent eye for new players - both permanent (eg, Dack, Adam Armstrong, Brereton Diaz, Joe Rothwell) and on loan (eg, Harrison Reed, Harvey Elliott, Tosin, Harwood-Bellis, JP van Hecke). Of course, there have been failures too, but that simply goes with the job).
He is not a "dinosaur", despite his age. He actually likes to experiment and innovate. (We made a very successful switch to three centre-backs at one point last season).
Intimate knowledge of the Championship.
Happy to encourage youth.

WEAKNESSES
He is not a 9/10 manager, but how many of those are there outside the PL?
He can appear a bit dour and unenthusiastic at times, (but that's mainly because he is not an extrovert and clearly reserves emotions for non-public situations).
He can be a bit stubborn on occasion - but again, isn't that true of most managers?
What was named as a "strength" above - innovation - can also be a bit of a downside. There were times when he fiddled with formations unnecessarily, and tried players in positions they were clearly unsuited to.
Oversaw a couple of pretty dire poor runs in February-March. (The chief factor in those declines was a failure to convert chances. Our "xG" remained little changed, but our conversion rate dropped dramatically. I am never sure how far that is a manager's "fault").

In the end, I think he knew himself that the dramatic decline from second place in January would prove fatal to his chances of being reappointed, but I honestly believe you could do a lot worse.
 
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