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Really makes yoi question why you bother

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Tristan S Mackem said:
I totally understand why you think that. However, try to keep the faith. Firstly, our manager did fantastically well, but any club is open to an approach from a rival, and the fact that he's taken the first opportunity suggests that he doesn't agree with our long-term vision of slow, steady growth through a certain type of player recruitment. He would argue he needs proven championship players, the club would argue they provided that with Clarke and Roberts, and narrowly missed out on Broadhead (although he could easily sign a pre-contract with another club in Jan, even us). I think we need to look more into the fact that AN knows it could take a few years, he's not on huge money here and Stoke have a reputation for paying big money, I think MON was on 800k or something crazy which I heard when Scotland tried to hire him before Steve Clarke (who is on about half of that). Even if AN was on 250k now and we offered him a massive rise, probably Stoke just beat that again and his family live close by (always a huge advantage for Midlands clubs).

It's sickening but he's already laid solid foundations and we made an astute choice in hiring him (against all the pressure for Keano) so we should at least hope all is not lost and we can attract a quality replacement either proven (like AN) or up-and-coming.

It hurts because it's the same situation with Allardyce, just as we finally got settled, he gets poached, and it could well happen again. I think AN didn't want a DOF, that's pretty clear otherwise he'd have held on for a far bigger job than stoke that could have come his way. I'm very surprised he's accepted it, and I think it shows he's maybe put his family before his ambition. It happens, no-one is bigger than SAFC.
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Good post and bang on I think. The whole situation now means that we need to have a replacement that will move us forward and stabilise the club, which is seemingly in turmoil.
 
shotleysafc said:
Good post and bang on I think. The whole situation now means that we need to have a replacement that will move us forward and stabilise the club, which is seemingly in turmoil.
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We'll get some nobody in 3-4 weeks after we've dropped a shit load of points and never recover. Who knows if we'll stay up.
 
CaptainRed said:
21st May 2022. One of the best days I've ever had. Probably one of the best supports and atmospheres the new Wembley has seen.

44k there for the Semi v Sheff Wed for another memorable night for all of us.

Didn't mean a thing to Neil though. Doesn't mean anything to the players or the directors either if truth be told. They'd all be off as soon as something else comes up.

Us fans are just pawns in a bigger game. We give, they take. We care about them, they couldn't care less about us.

I'm totally sickened by this. When Neil was appointed I said on here he would take us up when opinion on him was pretty split. He's an excellent manager and I thought he'd be here for the long haul. Instead he's jumping ship at the first opportunity, and for Stoke. One of the most pointless and boring clubs, in one of the most pointless and boring areas of the country.

To rub salt in the wounds it comes on the day them up the road pull out £60m for a new striker. It's like there's someone up there just permanently tormenting us. Honestly I'm 54 years old and I'm getting pig sick of it all. As soon as something good seems to be happening there's another kick in the bollocks to come along straight away.
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Couldn't agree more
 
In over 45 years of supporting Sunderland I can't think of many players or managers that have left us and gone on to achieve at bigger clubs
 
aye welcome to football in the 21st century, may as well support Ipswich or Barcelona or CSKA Moscow or a different team every week for all the relevance and sentiment players/managers hold to their clubs now
 
Big club means nowt to him and even for the fans when it's disappointment after disappointment, haven't won a major trophy for coming up 50+ years.
 
I think he might then be the first (after Stoke). If we can't hold onto Alex Neill then really what ambition do we have?????
 
pedro studmuffin said:
In over 45 years of supporting Sunderland I can't think of many players or managers that have left us and gone on to achieve at bigger clubs
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Maybe not managers but plenty of players have went onto bigger and better, Jordan Henderson won the champions league and Prem ffs.
 
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