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NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

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KGC83 said:
I’ve said this for ages the whole connection is because they think they are the geordie Liverpool :lol:

Never won a major trophy since the 50s :lol:

Nearly 3 quarters of a century ago :lol:
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Exactly and @Sombrero offended by a mis interpreted post but not ashamed of the slaughter of 89 people executed without fair trial, or the butchering of a journalist, the association with 9/11, the bombing of Yemen, the treatment of homosexuals….the list goes on. Sums them up entirely.
 

jlaws said:
Exactly and @Sombrero offended by a mis interpreted post but not ashamed of the slaughter of 89 people executed without fair trial, or the butchering of a journalist, the association with 9/11, the bombing of Yemen, the treatment of homosexuals….the list goes on. Sums them up entire
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jlaws said:
Exactly and @Sombrero offended by a mis interpreted post but not ashamed of the slaughter of 89 people executed without fair trial, or the butchering of a journalist, the association with 9/11, the bombing of Yemen, the treatment of homosexuals….the list goes on. Sums them up entirely.
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I don’t agree with what happens in that country, never have done. I never comment on your club either, same as you. Only about Newcastle.
 
KGC83 said:
I’ve said this for ages the whole connection is because they think they are the geordie Liverpool :lol:

Never won a major trophy since the 50s :lol:

Nearly 3 quarters of a century ago :lol:
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They should get called up on this every time they use the phrase “Scouse mackems” (which they seem to think is dead whitty and clever at the moment)

“So you are you then? Liverpool FC?!?!”
 
homeless kid said:
They should get called up on this every time they use the phrase “Scouse mackems” (which they seem to think is dead whitty and clever at the moment)

“So you are you then? Liverpool FC?!?!”
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I’m from Gateshead so I’m in loads of groups with mags and I say this to them and they can’t explain themselves.

It’s only so they can pretend they are this big club, which they aren’t
 
homeless kid said:
They should get called up on this every time they use the phrase “Scouse mackems” (which they seem to think is dead whitty and clever at the moment)

“So you are you then? Liverpool FC?!?!”
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Everton have won the league 7 times since the mags last won it, and they’ve got 3 FA Cups since the mags’ last one.

They’ve been in the top flight for nearly 70 consecutive years now as well. Mags have done 16 years at the 2nd level over the same period of time.

The mags aren’t even close to Everton FC, never mind Liverpool.
 
Obvious Mag said:
3 weeks before the start of the new season and my internal conflict hasn’t really resolved itself.

The reality of being owned by a state which is in all but essence supporting Putin in his war in Ukraine isn’t really hitting home for many because ‘the official club twitter is class now’.

We revel in Reubens donating to a foodbank made even more necessary by the party they choose to fund and becoming just as necessary by inflation being driven by Putins war in Ukraine supported by…you know who over in Ridyah. But hey…they’ve painted the Gallowgate.

They’ve added Biden to the list of whataboutery…it’s ok signing Botman because the President is fist bumping with MBS and that green shirt is a good laugh isn’t because it’s upset Olly Holt (tbf upsetting a Mail journalist isn’t the worst thing)

Mandy and Mehrdad are sainted…yes they seem awfully nice but as figureheads on a one year contract…why wouldn’t they be? No loss to them.

Ticket prices are rising, while Mike Ashley is guilty of possibly at worst being a disinterested badly advised owner, he kept prices low…prices will rise and the club don’t care if Dave from Byker can’t afford it, because the plan for success will bring in deep pocketed tourist fans that fill up the likes of anfield and old Trafford.

As I’ve said before, The fanbase is now dominated by a generation who grew up under Keegan and Robsons reigns where 5th was judged a failure. The biggest pain they’ve had is 2 relegations followed by immediate returns. They don’t remember McGarry, Sack the Board, Lord Westwood, Richard bloody Dinnis and years of misery and now they sit on podcasts and pontificate it was always top 10 finishes and European football and it bloody wasn’t.

I maintain Howe will leave this season, he’s the Mark Hughes of the revolution so to speak but I think he’ll go because he’s clear from day one he’s a hands on manager and that’s why Ashworth is now there and does Eddie Howe excite in foreign lands? Nah, would MBS pose with Howe? Doubt it. Jose will be in at some point and the Sir Bobby links will cause the Wear to fill with vomit.

Have I renewed? Yes as I’m on a deal. Therefore am I massive hypocrite? Possibly yes. I genuinely haven’t decided whether to go or pass the ticket to my nephew.

I just don’t like ‘my day’ of beers with the lads, craic in the pub and the normal working class lads and lasses around me being essentially an approval of our real owners…and that’s not an easy call.

Ps . The mag is utter shite click bait that makes the chronicle look Pulitzer Prize winning
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Nee way you're an Obvious Mag ;)

Good to see a completely different opinion though and sounds like you were there when football was a lot closer to fans than it is today :cool:
 
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Sporty said:
Nee way you're an Obvious Mag ;)

Good to see a completely different opinion though and sounds like you were there when football was a lot closer to fans than it is today :cool:
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Haha thanks.

Same as many on here, been around longer than I like to admit.

It’s incredibly hard to switch off from something you love regardless of who controls it. Part of you does think…ah sod it but then that doesn’t feel right.

It’s more disappointing when you see people like Michael Martin, who freely know pre commercial football existed just fall into this lazy baiting.

Michael Chaplin, a fairly distinguished author and TV producer has a similar take to me. He quit during Ashley but hasn’t gone back yet because of the Saudi influence, he describes his internal struggle far better then I do.

I just hate the podcast generation of fans…not all of them but the vocal ones like Alex Hurst (working man persona but owns a big fuck off taxi firm and is worth a fortune) that woeful Charlotte Robson (appeared on location, location ,location and stayed with mummy and daddy in their big fuck off Jesmond house while she house hunted) there’s just a hysterical lack of self awareness from any of them.
 
Obvious Mag said:
Haha thanks.

Same as many on here, been around longer than I like to admit.

It’s incredibly hard to switch off from something you love regardless of who controls it. Part of you does think…ah sod it but then that doesn’t feel right.

It’s more disappointing when you see people like Michael Martin, who freely know pre commercial football existed just fall into this lazy baiting.

Michael Chaplin, a fairly distinguished author and TV producer has a similar take to me. He quit during Ashley but hasn’t gone back yet because of the Saudi influence, he describes his internal struggle far better then I do.

I just hate the podcast generation of fans…not all of them but the vocal ones like Alex Hurst (working man persona but owns a big fuck off taxi firm and is worth a fortune) that woeful Charlotte Robson (appeared on location, location ,location and stayed with mummy and daddy in their big fuck off Jesmond house while she house hunted) there’s just a hysterical lack of self awareness from any of them.
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I do think there is an element of it being a generational thing. Football is a business now, and fans are customers. Fans believe that the club some how needs them or cares what they think. The truth is the clubs at the top level no longer give a toss. As long as they can fill your seat with someone else.... they will. And if they don't, how much have they lost? Not renewing a season ticket is nothing in a world where players are on tens of thousands of pounds a week.

If I was a Newcastle fan, or if the Saudi takeover had happened to Sunderland. I'd still want the club to do well. I'd still attend a few home games a season as I do now. But I'd not feel the same way about the club. It would be tainted.

The biggest lie is that "we got our club back". Nothing could be further from the truth, and the truth is going to hurt if/when the mood of the fans turns and all these pro-takeover podcasters and journalists have to reflect that mood.

And the wider football world will laugh their caps off... because all they'll remember is idiots with teatowels on their heads and petitions to parliament. There will be no sympathy...
 
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AB22 Easy Tiger said:
Just been watching Tyneside Life on YouTube. Apparently there's a 30,000 waiting list for season tickets and the only reason they're not increasing capacity to 100,000 is because they not allowed to have a bigger capacity than the national stadium.
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Wow! Most here know the 30,000 waiting list is delusion but I didn't know they were a European football powerhouse in the 60's with crowds regularly over 60,000 😲

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Statto alert @jlaws because after looking at their 60's seasons on wiki (
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We got over 60k overall 4 times, one being the return game against the Mags in that 62/63 season at our place where we got 62,420 so beat their attendance. The other being Stoke in the league and 2 times against Spurs & Everton in the FA Cup. In the league, we broke 50k 19 times with 14 in the league, 8 of those against other teams and 5 in the FA Cup so all more than the Mags in domestic competitions.

Back then the Cup games certainly affected the average and in the league only they averaged 32,459 and we averaged 32,598 over the decade from 1960/61 to 1969/70. It was a total difference of just 29,139 over 210 games with nearly 7m fans attending each club, so very similar, though we pipped them again in the league attendances :lol:

In the FA Cup they got an average of 45,581 from 10 games and we got 46,575 from 15 games (I'm excluding any non Roker Park games as 2 games were played at neutral venues). So more games in the FA Cup and yet again another higher average crowd ;)

In the league Cup they got an average of 16,091 from 5 games (they kept getting knocked out early and sometime away and never even played at home after 1965). We got 20,085 from 17 games so yet again more games in league Cup and yet again another higher average ;)

In the domestic cups we played more games at home (52 with 33 at Home to their 33 with 15 at home) which in part is due to that we progressed to the 4th round more times. We did it 10 times to their 4 which were all in the FA Cup as they never got past R3 in the league cup. They never got past R4 in FA cup whereas we got to R4x2, R5x2, QFx2 and in League Cup it was R4x2, QF & SF.

We'll have to give them the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup though as they played 10 games averaging 51,212 which is impressive [*] and they also won it so they piss all over us regarding Europe as I think we played in some Texas Trophy.

It seems there's a little of embellishing going on in that video as we all know there isn't 30,000 fans waiting for season tickets given the multi queuing fans and that over 60k regularly is complete bollocks. He's clearly ignoring the fact that many SAFC & NUFC fans went to both teams game back in the 60's when they weren't playing each other that fluffed up both our crowds, [*] especially the ICFC as I bet many SAFC wanted to go see the European teams also. The constant dick waving about our crowds is a bit like two bald men fighting over a comb as it's clear we're both well supported but starved of success which is obviously a crowd influencer, though during the 60's it looks like we had that extra few millimetres :lol:

To be fair, it's still not too shabby a European history to have, regardless of how they 'qualified' as it's better than ours and they do also have 1,000's of genuine fans who are wanting STs. Though it's mad how some of them like to exaggerate the facts that then gets lapped up by others and made into fact. Yet when you look at the facts and a little more into it, it's nowt like their deluded fiction. A big expansion of SJP is fantasy at the moment, plus they don't own the land and there's development around the area. Why would the owners invest millions when they can simply up the prices over a few seasons giving the waiting list and it would take many seasons of sustained success to justify expansion as we both know what happens when things fail.

p.s. For any lurking mags, aye you may think I'm obsessed, rattled, jealous and all the other shite but I'm not. It's just I find these delusions of grandeur amusing so had to show this is another example. A bonus for our amusement on here is that it seems that in the league, FA Cup and league Cup we had a higher average during the complete 1960's seasons in all 3 competitions, along with progressing further in the domestic cups so we'll wave our ever so slightly bigger dicks this time 🤣
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p.p.s. It wasn't the Texas Trophy :lol:, it was the Texaco Cup and it started in 1970 so not even the 60's. I know my memory is shite at times but I don't know why I added that comment and the Mags won it also so 1 dick wave for them in the 70's
 
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Sporty said:
He's clearly ignoring the fact that many SAFC & NUFC fans went to both teams game back in the 60's when they weren't playing each other that fluffed up both our crowds, [*] especially the ICFC as I bet many SAFC wanted to go see the European teams also.
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People forget how common that was. My dad was Sunderland, his best mate Newcastle. Football was affordable then, and if your club was away and your mates team were at home and had an appealing fixture, it wasn't unusual for people to go along to watch another club a few times a season.

Hard to imagine it now. But it was the equivalent I suppose of going to watch Newcastle on TV in the pub with a mate who follows them

When the old man sorted out his attic a few years ago even he was surprised how many Newcastle programmes he had amassed. There was even a few Boro ones in there.
 
Spartan said:
Howe never lead Bournemouth to finish above Everton. He's just not "richest club in the world" level.
He's the Liz Truss of NUFC. They like him because he needed the job and could be strong armed into having no opinion on the politics.
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Most of the club, including the facilities, isn’t, to be frank.
 
jlaws said:
Because 300m was an absolute steal. They will make over a bn when they sell up in a few years.
Exile and bear - this fella is calling you out:

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Oooh doesnt he get excited ..touched a nerve there lads
KGC83 said:
I’m from Gateshead so I’m in loads of groups with mags and I say this to them and they can’t explain themselves.

It’s only so they can pretend they are this big club, which they aren’t
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Many of them bust a retina when fergie called the a wee club in the northeast
 
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