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NUFC and other Sportswashing Spring 2022

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geordiedan said:
Any chance of any of you lads stringing a coherent sentence together without chucking a swear word in. Btw Ziggy lad we’ve hit the big time. We’ve made it onto the deluded rtg site on twitter. 🤝
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Go away you sad, boring bastard. I couldn’t give a shite about twitter or whatever else you saddos get involved with.

The highlight of your life summed up in one sentence, well done, you’ve hit the big time.
 
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one footed wonder said:
Know a load of Newcastle fans and it is simply impossible to have a conversation with them about it as anything remotely negative is jumped on as being jealousy.

I’ve started saying it’s pointless talking about it if we can’t have a proper conversation, guess what, yep I’m jealous. 🤣🤣
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A mag copper came into our work last week for meeting and he was talking about season tickets to the only other mag in the room ( they both dont go to games)

I mentioned the golf being a disgrace for a bit fishing. He tutted and said America kill more people but nothing said. I just looked aghast and said " aye but generally for murdering people not for being gay".

Conversation stopped , on my part that is.
 
Thatheaderman said:
A mag copper came into our work last week for meeting and he was talking about season tickets to the only other mag in the room ( they both dont go to games)

I mentioned the golf being a disgrace for a bit fishing. He tutted and said America kill more people but nothing said. I just looked aghast and said " aye but generally for murdering people not for being gay".

Conversation stopped , on my part that is.
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Ive heard that line from some neutrals lately. That America have killed thousands of muslims this century but because Saudi hate gays theres outrage. Is this really a valid point?
 
Roker Mackem said:
Ive heard that line from some neutrals lately. That America have killed thousands of muslims this century but because Saudi hate gays theres outrage. Is this really a valid point?
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I didnt even allow him to debate whether he meant through war or death penalty. I didnt even know he was a mag in truth so was rather pissed off . Sergeant as well. Pathetic
 
Sporty said:
There's a surprise, well swerved the question "Are you supportive in the removal of Abramovich?". OK, you say you have no interest in Abramovich or Chelsea but what about the reasons behind his removal?
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Let me make this abundantly clear.
Any person or people that commit atrocities or gain wealth on the back of the demise or detriment of others should be punished for it.
Now here's the problem.
We are basically under the control of people who are willing to do all of that stuff and by that, I mean governments and dictators on top of massive moneymen/women from all walks of life.
This does not just include Newcastle United.

Now then, I could offer up morals and say "right that's it I don't support Newcastle United anymore and on top of that I'm stopping watching all sports that consist of being owned by moneymen/women who gain their wealth on the back of atrocities or detriment of others.
I then have to start putting a block on anything and everything associated with that setup.
Basically, I'll find myself picking up scraps or living off the land.


Sporty said:
Do you have an interest in the fact that a certain person who is chairman of the group that owns 80% of NUFC is in part to blame for this shown in the video below and other things regarding beliefs and laws in SA you are in no doubt aware of?
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Like I said above. If we only knew a tiny p[ercentage of it all we wouldn't just be arguing about Newcastle United and whoever owns it. But seeing as this is a rival board it is one thing that naturally stands out as a major battering ram and I get it.
Sporty said:
You must be logged on to see media items
go on, break it right down as you'll see this
Don't come back with the UK exports weapons etc as that's just another swerve.
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Nothing's a swerve. It consists of almost everything but it comes down to a choice of what constitutes selective morals.
It comes down to us all being hypocrites.
You're using a more powerful conveyance with Saudis and Newcastle as your main battering ram and will massively rest on your laurels as it stands but deep down you will know you are partaking in many things that constitute some atrocities or the detriment of people or animals and so on.

A "yeah but" is no get-out-of-jail-free card. It comes down to hypocritical views and we are all guilty of it.
Sporty said:
Courts don't usually send the gun manufacturers to prison, it's mainly people that use them on others unless they've good legitimate reason to.
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Absolutely but we can argue all kinds of stuff based on this mindset.
If Manufacturers didn't make guns then nobody would be shot. And because they obviously do manufacture guns and weapons, when does it become morally legal to use them?
Somebody or something has to be on the end of an atrocity or to be at the detriment of it.
I could make many arguments with this just as you could for it.
Sporty said:
As is the whataboutery about the small percentage of non controlling shares PIF bought in companies. Those shares were nowhere near the 80% they have in NUFC and is seemingly using as a sports washing vehicle.
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And this comes back to morals as I mentioned a while ago in this thread.
Let's make this clear.
If an army rushes a village that houses potential terrorists and wipes out that village, knowing there are many innocent people in it but they had little or no real choice but to accept them and stay silent or face the consequences, many people would have many different views.
Some would say, " well they housed terrorists and knew it, so paid the penalty."
Others would say "why couldn't the terrorists be rooted out and the innocents are left alone."
Some would say " In war innocents unfortunately die."
Some would say, "why kill anyone?"

And this comes down to selective morals and people basically being hypocrites when it is on their own doorstep, kind of thing.
It's just finding a reason as and when to use one argument against another if it appears to have a powerful one-upmanship over another person at any particular time.
This is a classic example of that.
Sporty said:
You mention it comes down to fine margins but for many, not just SAFC fans, there's no fine margin regarding NUFC, it's literally black and white as to what happened and what is going on.
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Of course, it's black and white. It's news saturation and a massive reason to have something to beat down on something that's in the limelight. More so with Sunderland fans, because the hate from some goes beyond reasoning, so stands out as the absolute bitterness it shows.
I get that and I know Newcastle fans (some) would offer the very same if the boot was on the other foot and Sunderland fans (some) would be offering similar arguments as to what Newcastle fans offer.
As I said, it comes down to selective morals based on what suits at any particular time.


Sporty said:
Try to focus on the concerns to you directly being a supporter of that club rather than all the problems in the world by using deflection or whataboutery.
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Let's be totally honest from my side. I am absolutely not going to stop supporting Newcastle United, no matter what I like or dislike about what's going on in the world.
I hate a lot of things that go on but I can not stop anything happening that is not directly within my physical grasp and ability.
You can argue I could stop supporting the club but that doesn't change anything except me taking some kind of stance that others do not, so I change nothing other than one hypocritical stance based on what other hypocrites think is correct, which is not entirely based on morals alone, more hatred and jealousy mixed in but will obviously be denied.

If we only knew half of what goes on in the world. If we only knew the truth of selective news stories.
What goes on behind closed doors in governments and large consortiums of people who get the spoils of what's on offer for collaboration with each nation.

If I had my way I'd scrap all sport and money people and hand it back to grassroots people to run for the people, by the people.
I'd get rid of armies and killing in an ideal world.
I'd let animals live naturally.
I'd let people live naturally.

And so on and so on.

But......................
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Let me make this abundantly clear.
Any person or people that commit atrocities or gain wealth on the back of the demise or detriment of others should be punished for it.
Now here's the problem.
We are basically under the control of people who are willing to do all of that stuff and by that, I mean governments and dictators on top of massive moneymen/women from all walks of life.
This does not just include Newcastle United.

Now then, I could offer up morals and say "right that's it I don't support Newcastle United anymore and on top of that I'm stopping watching all sports that consist of being owned by moneymen/women who gain their wealth on the back of atrocities or detriment of others.
I then have to start putting a block on anything and everything associated with that setup.
Basically, I'll find myself picking up scraps or living off the land.



Like I said above. If we only knew a tiny p[ercentage of it all we wouldn't just be arguing about Newcastle United and whoever owns it. But seeing as this is a rival board it is one thing that naturally stands out as a major battering ram and I get it.

Nothing's a swerve. It consists of almost everything but it comes down to a choice of what constitutes selective morals.
It comes down to us all being hypocrites.
You're using a more powerful conveyance with Saudis and Newcastle as your main battering ram and will massively rest on your laurels as it stands but deep down you will know you are partaking in many things that constitute some atrocities or the detriment of people or animals and so on.

A "yeah but" is no get-out-of-jail-free card. It comes down to hypocritical views and we are all guilty of it.

Absolutely but we can argue all kinds of stuff based on this mindset.
If Manufacturers didn't make guns then nobody would be shot. And because they obviously do manufacture guns and weapons, when does it become morally legal to use them?
Somebody or something has to be on the end of an atrocity or to be at the detriment of it.
I could make many arguments with this just as you could for it.

And this comes back to morals as I mentioned a while ago in this thread.
Let's make this clear.
If an army rushes a village that houses potential terrorists and wipes out that village, knowing there are many innocent people in it but they had little or no real choice but to accept them and stay silent or face the consequences, many people would have many different views.
Some would say, " well they housed terrorists and knew it, so paid the penalty."
Others would say "why couldn't the terrorists be rooted out and the innocents are left alone."
Some would say " In war innocents unfortunately die."
Some would say, "why kill anyone?"

And this comes down to selective morals and people basically being hypocrites when it is on their own doorstep, kind of thing.
It's just finding a reason as and when to use one argument against another if it appears to have a powerful one-upmanship over another person at any particular time.
This is a classic example of that.

Of course, it's black and white. It's news saturation and a massive reason to have something to beat down on something that's in the limelight. More so with Sunderland fans, because the hate from some goes beyond reasoning, so stands out as the absolute bitterness it shows.
I get that and I know Newcastle fans (some) would offer the very same if the boot was on the other foot and Sunderland fans (some) would be offering similar arguments as to what Newcastle fans offer.
As I said, it comes down to selective morals based on what suits at any particular time.



Let's be totally honest from my side. I am absolutely not going to stop supporting Newcastle United, no matter what I like or dislike about what's going on in the world.
I hate a lot of things that go on but I can not stop anything happening that is not directly within my physical grasp and ability.
You can argue I could stop supporting the club but that doesn't change anything except me taking some kind of stance that others do not, so I change nothing other than one hypocritical stance based on what other hypocrites think is correct, which is not entirely based on morals alone, more hatred and jealousy mixed in but will obviously be denied.

If we only knew half of what goes on in the world. If we only knew the truth of selective news stories.
What goes on behind closed doors in governments and large consortiums of people who get the spoils of what's on offer for collaboration with each nation.

If I had my way I'd scrap all sport and money people and hand it back to grassroots people to run for the people, by the people.
I'd get rid of armies and killing in an ideal world.
I'd let animals live naturally.
I'd let people live naturally.

And so on and so on.

But......................
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How many whatabouts in this pile of shite. Listen you absolute sportswashed fool, the overlords that you bow down to, actually commit atrocities. Stone raped women, chuck gays off buildings, marry 11 year olds, genocide in Yemen. But you just don't care , cos you now have chris wood up front!
 
Skylon said:
How many whatabouts in this pile of shite. Listen you absolute sportswashed fool
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I've been a Newcastle fan since I was old enough to know so there's no need for sports washing with me. I'm a fan and supporter of Newcastle United regardless of what you think or anyone else thinks.
If that makes me some kind of monster in your and others' minds then so be it.
Skylon said:
, the overlords that you bow down to actually commit atrocities.
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I don't bow down. I simply am a fan of Newcastle United.
I didn't bow down to Seymour, Westwood, or McKeag, nor Hall or Shepherd nor Ashley, and the same goes for the custodians this time around.
I do however get thorough enjoyment out of being a Newcastle United fan and supporter of the club, along with the anguish just like all supporters and fans of any club will.
Do you think your government commits atrocities?
Skylon said:
Stone raped women, chuck gays off buildings, marry 11 year olds, genocide in Yemen. But you just don't care , cos you now have chris wood up front!
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I actually hate what happens in this world with any and all atrocities.
If you think I could stop it from happening then offer up some advice or if you think I can't then just accept that life will go on as per normal with all kinds of atrocities committed by people in power in all countries.
It just comes down to what one country deems to be morally acceptable against what another country thinks.

The reality is no atrocity comes with morals, in reality, just the perceived morals of people brainwashed into a certain faction.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
I've been a Newcastle fan since I was old enough to know so there's no need for sports washing with me. I'm a fan and supporter of Newcastle United regardless of what you think or anyone else thinks.
If that makes me some kind of monster in your and others' minds then so be it.

I don't bow down. I simply am a fan of Newcastle United.
I didn't bow down to Seymour, Westwood, or McKeag, nor Hall or Shepherd nor Ashley, and the same goes for the custodians this time around.
I do however get thorough enjoyment out of being a Newcastle United fan and supporter of the club, along with the anguish just like all supporters and fans of any club will.
Do you think your government commits atrocities?

I actually hate what happens in this world with any and all atrocities.
If you think I could stop it from happening then offer up some advice or if you think I can't then just accept that life will go on as per normal with all kinds of atrocities committed by people in power in all countries.
It just comes down to what one country deems to be morally acceptable against what another country thinks.

The reality is no atrocity comes with morals, in reality, just the perceived morals of people brainwashed into a certain faction.
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Another pile of sportswashed shite^. You are warped with money man, you couldn't give a shit about your franchise owners atrocities. You even mentioned in earlier threads you think it's OK to marry 11 year old kids. You have absolutely been sportswashed, tumble dried, and hung out to dry.
 
Skylon said:
Another pile of sportswashed shite^.
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I wouldn't expect you to think anything else.
Skylon said:
You are warped with money man
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I don't have much money.
Skylon said:
, you couldn't give a shit about your franchise owners atrocities.
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If I told you I think about atrocities every day over the world I'd be lying. It's depressing and I try to channel my mind onto stuff that doesn't cause depressive thoughts.

Skylon said:
You even mentioned in earlier threads you think it's OK to marry 11 year old kids.
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No, I didn't but you feel free to think whatever you want to.

Skylon said:
You have absolutely been sportswashed, tumble dried, and hung out to dry.
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And you're absolutely welcome to those thoughts for as long as you wish to hold them. It has absolutely no bearing on my Newcastle United experience.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I wouldn't expect you to think anything else.

I don't have much money.

If I told you I think about atrocities every day over the world I'd be lying. It's depressing and I try to channel my mind onto stuff that doesn't cause depressive thoughts.


No, I didn't but you feel free to think whatever you want to.


And you're absolutely welcome to those thoughts for as long as you wish to hold them. It has absolutely no bearing on my Newcastle United experience.
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You said if it's OK to do in that country, then it's OK by you, who are we to criticise another countries customs. You are a bit of a sicko, aren't you?
 
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