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Should the Chanpionship be a Franchise competition?
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Just think you are missing the point we are making, I find it hard to believe that woud count as success for Sunderland considering the fans wouldnt support them
I’ve made a point that I don’t think franchise cricket in England will work, unlike in the ipl with a billion Indians following it.
the nfl is the most financially successful format of franchise sport there is on the planet
thats the point
I am Boss
Winger
Love the NFL but don't think it's a good comparison. There's more passionate support towards the college teams than the NFL sides and the number of American football fans outweighs the number of tickets available so it'll always be a success. Cricket in England doesn't have that luxury. Especially red ball
Not comparing it but imo the NFL is the most successful franchise system on the planet.
now back to franchise cricket. I doubt very much that it will succeed in England and definitely not for county championship purposes
Voice of fair play
Striker
I personally would not franchise teams in England, but generalised statements like it’s all rubbish is clearly wide of the mark.
The IPL finished yesterday and apparently 105 thousand people watched in the ground the final.
I repeat 105 thousand for a cricket match, that’s success of a tournament in anybodys book.
And the fans seem as invested and as passionate and enjoy themselves as much as I have seen any cricket fan do.
That said don’t think it would be right for the English game to go down the franchise route.
The IPL finished yesterday and apparently 105 thousand people watched in the ground the final.
I repeat 105 thousand for a cricket match, that’s success of a tournament in anybodys book.
And the fans seem as invested and as passionate and enjoy themselves as much as I have seen any cricket fan do.
That said don’t think it would be right for the English game to go down the franchise route.
smoker
Striker
See my post above. Despite having franchised T20 they don't have franchised First Class cricket. They have 50+ teams in the Ranji Trophy which is highly successful in creating test teams.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Yeah I agree thats why I said would not have it in England.
As don’t think the right fit.
It clearly is the right for T20 in India, it seems it’s not cool to admit the IPL has been a success or to praise brilliant cricketers in that tournament.
When imo it’s obviously is a massive success as fans are massively still passionate about their team, despite it been a franchise team that’s clear as day
But I agree with you one size does not fit all and franchise cricket should not be in red ball first class cricket and certainly not in England.
A earlier post said all franchise is shit that’s clearly wrong as the IPL could not have been a bigger success.
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thegreatbram
Goalkeeper
In test matches we had good solid openers, Strauss, Trescothick, Cook, bell in the middle order,
Other teams have caught up with the aggressive style of play that our 1 day side has played in recent years, I don’t believe we’ve gone on, we won 1 T20 World Cup in the Caribbean, and we won 1 50 over World Cup on a technicality. Hardly world domination.
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Aye I know, but what I mean is, Australia didnt win an ashes for a long time, yet they have this supposed great system
just trying to make point not as easy as just limiting teams = better quality
Australia also a country which is a lot different geographically to England
It’s just Kevin Howells interviewing Neil Snowball who is FTECB’s Managing Director of County Cricket.
To summarise, he swerved every single difficult question, but the two main takeaways from that for me were:
- Absolutely no plan whatsoever to play franchise red ball cricket - but of course the door was left open with regards more franchised white ball - repeated several times that the county structure with the history and heritage and loyalty of each and every club needs preserving.
- Wouldn’t rule out a shortening (even further) of the red ball schedule.
And I didn’t watch a single game. Because it’s shite
I couldn’t tell you who plays for who.
Generating money doesn’t equal good. Coldplay tell you that
It’s a bad comparison because the entire structure in the States from junior to senior level is on another planet to what it is in this country.
Twisted
Striker
Mic drop etc
Voice of fair play
Striker
Each to their own mate, I watched loads and found it great to watch, cricket players playing to entertain, fans really enjoying themselves and been passionate about their team and their sport.
Nobody mentioned money or generating cash as a indication of success
What I mentioned is 105 thousand people wanting to watch a cricket final, and throughly enjoying themselves, that would not happen if the product was not good or more importantly not entertaining?
Not to mention the crowds and brilliant atmosphere throughout the tournament that all players playing in it comment on, that suggests it’s a success very much a success at least in India.
By very nature when you have the best players in the world in that format going head to head then of course it’s good, it’s churlish to say anything else.
What gets me on this subject is if exactly the same 22 players play out a T20 match in the blast it’s great entertainment, yet if the very same 22 players play in the IPL, with the same scores.
There is always a angle found on here to critcise it!!
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It’s entertainment. It’s highly skilled. But it’s utterly throwaway. I don’t care about it. I don’t know who plays for who. It’s entertaining but it’s contrived
Voice of fair play
Striker
That’s fine mate that’s entirely your opinion and up to you.
But like you say it’s clearly highly skilled and entertaining and the fans over there absolutely love it!!
As do the players!!
So based of that this one franchise tournament just this one is clearly a massive success.
Don’t disagree with your arguments on other franchise tournaments and don’t want it in England either in the championship
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to be honest i wish i had said nowt
wayne entwhistle no9
Winger
There is no money in domestic first class cricket anywhere in the world it's only purpose is to produce cricketers for the respective international teams therefore a complete anathema to the concept of franchises.
The only way it survives is if it is funded By the governing bodies of each country.
The only way it survives is if it is funded By the governing bodies of each country.
