i've already said that would be up to the courts to decide. repeat yourself away but it's clear that you're basing your opinion on football allegiances.
So a bloke with his wife and daughter walk into a bar in Amble...
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Tuono
Winger
He didn't get a reward, he got compensation you loon.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
So do you mean 1 year to do 6 months or 6 months to do 3 months?
Regardless of what length, what does that gain?
Do you know what keeps most people out of prison?
It's the thought of going to prison for the first time.
The threat of prison is enough to keep many on the straight and narrow.
Give those two 6 months prison could open up a massive can of worms with their families and job prospects and even offer them a way into crime. It happens much more than you think.
The sentences they got were far more productive than jail time in this instance.
IMO.
Clearly, I'm not basing it on anything like football allegiances.
Can you offer a sentence that you think would be acceptable to you?
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beverly macca
Winger
No the threat of prison isn’t enough. He had a record for a load of previous ya thick fucker so stop being a knacker.
It’s another crime they have getting away with.
This case is really the difference between you lot and us. You are alluding to some imaginary circumstance that it was somehow the victims fault.
it's obviously not in this case. absolute scumbags.
Targeting of an individual by a group, use of extreme violence (without weapons), intention to cause fear of violence. Found guilty of affray, custodial sentence between 2 and 2.9 years. It's only through luck the bloke wasn't left either dead or with life changing injuries.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Why weren't 4 people prosecuted?
You mention the bloke has 37 offences. Do you know what for? Violence?
Has he even been to jail? Has any of them?
Jailing someone for 6 months creates an immediate short sharp shock for a while and then they're into the system.
In that short space of time, it could be life-changing in many many ways, not just for them but for their families and most of it not good.
What they were given was a 2 year plus jail sentence of mind until they appear in court for sentencing.
Then they get 18 months in prison and suspended for 2 years.
They also get 200 hours of unpaid community service.
They also have to pay the victim £500 compensation.
As I said before. A fair punishment is much more effective than the sentence you offer. IMO.
To be a fly on the wall of that pub to actually see what really went on.
Why weren't 4 people prosecuted?
If the beating was so vicious then I'd expect them to be jailed for a lot longer than what you say.
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If the beating was worse they would have been charged with a different offence ie aoabh, gbh, wounding with intent, malicious wounding, manslaughter or murder. They were charged with a public order offence, affray to which they were found guilty. The sentencing guidlines is a max of 3 years.
MackneyHackem
Striker
The victims of a crime tend not to get convicted iirc.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
It seems to be threats of violence mainly then and not the extreme beating that could've ended in death or life-changing injuries.
When you mention extreme violence it would suggest to me that their intention was to badly hurt the man and this would've been the case.
So why just public order and affray?
beverly macca
Winger
1. Probably because they didn’t ‘grass’ their mates up.
2. 37 offences of anything tells its own story (wrongun)
3. So no one should be jailed ever?
Stop sticking up for these knackers man, they exist all over not just Newcastle/Northumberland.
There’s certain rules about getting into a fight, certain lines you don’t cross as a bloke.
No kids
No wife’s
And have a fair fight.
Utter filth.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
I never said they did.
It's all in the uk sentencing guidlines, I would suggest you read them.
beverly macca
Winger
That’s the f***ing reason people are arguing with you. It’s a disgrace.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
So the other two escaped and left those two to take the rap for a 4 man beating?
And yet the two left are done for affray and public order?
37 offences could've been anything throughout his life. None for violence...right or don't you know?
Not in this case, no.
Nothing to do with postcodes or what team a person supports. This applies to anyone.
In drink, those lines get crossed depending on the opponent. Even without a drink but drink certainly offers a person potentially much more aggression and overstepping the mark in an altercation.
If only life was like that.
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Nukehasslefan
Winger
If guidelines were followed the jails would not only be overflowing, we'd likely have another few dozen built.
Circumstances offer better ways out, as in this case.
Aye, it is a disgrace and those that played their part are punished and fairly.
Why would I need to mention the victim?
This is about those two being punished, which they have been.
The victim escaped relatively unharmed.
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bloody hell man.
