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NUFC and other Sportswashing Spring 2022

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Keith S30S said:
They simply can't just spend what they want. FFP has been tightened up again. The days of a team like Chelsea or City buying the league in a few years are long gone.

They'll probably end up fighting for 7th in the foreseeable future.
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Man City are signing Haaland and paying him £500k per week. These clubs have more money than sense and quite happy to take the risk it seems.
 
kingkeane said:
They actually think they are winning the premier league and playing in the champions league. does anyone on here think that will happen in the future? Just interested in others opinion.
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I think it's possible.
If we had Everton's owner or someone as gungho as him I think we'd struggle.
What we do have, or it seems to be, is owners who are careful enough to take enough time to see what they're getting.

This is evident with the Howe appointment and player buys up to now, none of which have disappointed and in fact have excelled, in the main.

It all comes down to if we are allowed to compete fairly against the elites already installed.

We'll see.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I think it's possible.
If we had Everton's owner or someone as gungho as him I think we'd struggle.
What we do have, or it seems to be, is owners who are careful enough to take enough time to see what they're getting.

This is evident with the Howe appointment and player buys up to now, none of which have disappointed and in fact have excelled, in the main.

It all comes down to if we are allowed to compete fairly against the elites already installed.

We'll see.
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If that didn't happen in say the next 5 years would you be disappointed? imo I think you can hit 7th but no higher in that time.
 
Keith S30S said:
They can to some extent but not long term. For example it has been bandied around they could spend about £300M over 3 seasons. This is transfers AND wages but some of the fees could be delayed by paying in installments.

That means they could spend £200 in the summer but then they'd be in an Everton like scenario where they wouldn't be able to spend much at all for a couple of seasons as they've already spent the thick end of £100M in January.
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The problem is the influence MBS has over governments, large organisations and institutions. We've already seen that play out during the sale of the club. There's always loopholes and other clubs won't mind if the mags are paying them silly fees for players. There's plenty of examples to show FFP is far from black and white (ironically)
 
kingkeane said:
If that didn't happen in say the next 5 years would you be disappointed? imo I think you can hit 7th but no higher in that time.
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Disappointed?.....Probably, yes....but, only if we were challenging at the time and got pipped as we did under Keegan.
As you'll know, with great strides or the promise of them comes bigger expectations. It's the nature of the beast.

Take a look at Maxi. One minute he's a revelation and when his magic doesn't look so magical he's crucified by some. Does he deserve it?.... It depends on how it's looked at in terms of how far we come when having a sort of resurgence and then a blip that features mistakes by him and others, yet he stands out because of his fantastic ability which is expected all of the time by some.

The same goes for the entire team as we build.
This run creates upward expectations and defeats and a drop-down will create a bit of discontent and nitpicking.

Next season will hold nothing but higher expectations for some. Likely a minimum top 8 finish but for some, it'll be a quick run for champions league place or at worst a Europa.

It's a bit mad but we all do it when something's offered above the accepted norm.

What do I expect?
I don't expect anything other than not playing in a relegation place and enjoyable football in the main.
What I hope for is a massive push for the higher echelons against the elites.
Why?
What's good for the Goose in this sporting corruption. I'm sick of playing second fiddle to the devil, I want us to play that fiddle hard and play it at it's own game. It's a sad state of affairs but I think most would take that setup if offered.
 
Botchie said:
The problem is the influence MBS has over governments, large organisations and institutions. We've already seen that play out during the sale of the club. There's always loopholes and other clubs won't mind if the mags are paying them silly fees for players. There's plenty of examples to show FFP is far from black and white (ironically)
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Er other clubs would be foaming if the mags were exploiting FFP!

Man City and others already push it as far as they can. The mags can't go any further.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I think it's possible.
If we had Everton's owner or someone as gungho as him I think we'd struggle.
What we do have, or it seems to be, is owners who are careful enough to take enough time to see what they're getting.

This is evident with the Howe appointment and player buys up to now, none of which have disappointed and in fact have excelled, in the main.

It all comes down to if we are allowed to compete fairly against the elites already installed.

We'll see.
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I don't think hand on heart you can say it was all part of some big master plan!

Fans can pretend as much as they want but EH was never first choice - in hindsight it doesn't matter. Likewise with the players. If Botman/Carlos signed they don't get Dan Burn. If Lingard/Donny sign they don't get Bruno. If Ekitike signs they don't get Wood. It is miraculous that all the signings have worked out but it is not by great planning it was down to chance.

As a fan are the performances that much better? Clearly the results and atmosphere are. Possession doesn't win games but it would be foolish to imagine conceding the ball 60% of the time will get you top 6.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Disappointed?.....Probably, yes....but, only if we were challenging at the time and got pipped as we did under Keegan.
As you'll know, with great strides or the promise of them comes bigger expectations. It's the nature of the beast.

Take a look at Maxi. One minute he's a revelation and when his magic doesn't look so magical he's crucified by some. Does he deserve it?.... It depends on how it's looked at in terms of how far we come when having a sort of resurgence and then a blip that features mistakes by him and others, yet he stands out because of his fantastic ability which is expected all of the time by some.

The same goes for the entire team as we build.
This run creates upward expectations and defeats and a drop-down will create a bit of discontent and nitpicking.

Next season will hold nothing but higher expectations for some. Likely a minimum top 8 finish but for some, it'll be a quick run for champions league place or at worst a Europa.

It's a bit mad but we all do it when something's offered above the accepted norm.

What do I expect?
I don't expect anything other than not playing in a relegation place and enjoyable football in the main.
What I hope for is a massive push for the higher echelons against the elites.
Why?
What's good for the Goose in this sporting corruption. I'm sick of playing second fiddle to the devil, I want us to play that fiddle hard and play it at it's own game. It's a sad state of affairs but I think most would take that setup if offered.
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Your owner likes fiddling too(with kids)
Skylon said:
Your owner likes fiddling too(with kids)
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Conveniently forgotten about by the sportswashed
 
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