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Adam Johnson - Ahmad Khan

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Mackem00 said:
Sure it's the same offence? Isn't Kahn an actual rapist?
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I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt tbh.

Adam Johnson deserved to be locked up but the sentence was surprising.

This MP has previous and the offences worse imo.

A sentence of more than 12 months, suspended or otherwise, means he can no longer be an MP.
 
ErichZann said:
He won't get anywhere close to 6 years imo, Johnson's sentence was very lengthly compared to others that are in the news on a daily basis - he was made an example of because he was a Premier League footballer.
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I’m not disagreeing but should a MP be more of a role model than a footballer?

Is there a scale of moral responsibility and appropriate punishment?

It’s a rhetorical question, I’m not putting the spotlight on you.
 
ErichZann said:
He won't get anywhere close to 6 years imo, Johnson's sentence was very lengthly compared to others that are in the news on a daily basis - he was made an example of because he was a Premier League footballer.
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Was it not because he denied all the charges until just before the trial when he admitted 2 out of 5 causing the kid and her family to be abused on the run up to trial. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what the judge said when they explained the sentence.
 
Bear Heed said:
What sentence would you think appropriate for Khan?

I know the offences aren't the same in every detail but they're close enough to expect similar sentences imo.

I'd say Khan's offence is worse tbh.
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I don't have sufficient knowledge of the sentencing guidelines to be able to make a judgement to be honest.

Anecdotally I'll probably think whatever he gets won't be enough though. Same as with Johnson in that respect, I don't buy that he was hard done to at all.
 
Ashley In!! said:
I don't have sufficient knowledge of the sentencing guidelines to be able to make a judgement to be honest.

Anecdotally I'll probably think whatever he gets won't be enough though. Same as with Johnson in that respect, I don't buy that he was hard done to at all.
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I didn't say Johnson was hard done to.
 
Bear Heed said:
I didn't say Johnson was hard done to.
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I know you didn't. I offered my opinion in the context of what constitutes appropriate sentencing.

There are a few on here who think he was hard done to, which I've never thought right.

Similarly whatever sentence this MP gets I doubt I'll think it's overly harsh.
 
bahtat said:
Guilty of sexual abuse not rape as far as I can see
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That's why I'm saying it's similar to Johnson.

The difference is that Johnson didn't get the girl drunk, drag her into a bedroom and assault her.

She was obviously a willing participant although, I do appreciate, that's no defence.
 
Bear Heed said:
That's why I'm saying it's similar to Johnson.

The difference is that Johnson didn't get the girl drunk, drag her into a bedroom and assault her.

She was obviously a willing participant although, I do appreciate, that's no defence.
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But he was also found guilty, or did he plead guilty of grooming and there was a couple of other counts, can’t remember all the details
 
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